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Wed 4 Sep 2013 9:44AM

Closing a proposal

DS Dean Satchell Public Seen by 123

Group rules are necessary. These should include rules around disruptive behaviour such as where a proposer refuses to close an untenable proposal.

DS

Dean Satchell Wed 4 Sep 2013 9:44AM

If the proposer becomes attached to keeping the process alive and stubbornly sticks to their unchanged proposal they deservedly get blocked. Someone else in the group can create a new discussion if that one is going nowhere.

DS

Poll Created Wed 4 Sep 2013 9:45AM

Only the proposer should be able to close their proposal. Closed Sat 7 Sep 2013 9:02AM

Outcome
by Dean Satchell Mon 27 Feb 2017 10:21PM

There may be consensus around group-configurable options such as also allowing admins to close proposals and block closing proposals

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 0.0% 0  
Abstain 0.0% 0  
Disagree 100.0% 4 JV DS RJ CT
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 895 RG JL AI KC NW SW MT AT AC BH G JG DS MS N AR AC HM C SZ

4 of 899 people have participated (0%)

CT

Chris Taklis
Disagree
Wed 4 Sep 2013 9:49AM

i totally disagree. Also the admins must be able to do it!

DS

Danyl Strype
Disagree
Wed 4 Sep 2013 10:10AM

If a member sees a proposal as going against the group's core values, or a danger to group's existence, they should be able to 'block'. This needs to either: make the proposal text editable, or close the proposal so a new one can be created.

RJ

Raphaël Jadot
Disagree
Wed 4 Sep 2013 3:47PM

I think it should be, ideally, a workflow chosen by the group.

JV

Joshua Vial
Disagree
Fri 6 Sep 2013 8:03AM

I think it should be admin + proposer can close.

MT

Miles Thompson Wed 4 Sep 2013 9:51AM

it's an interesting solution to the timing problem... in the right context setting an official end date has an interesting significance which can be helpful but all too often that extra context is missing and so as it stands I found the having to set an end date when creating my own proposal baffling and frustrating .. on the other hand without an end date how can a proposal be regarded as 'closed' ? flipping it around, though the problem with this is that proposers will hardly ever actualyl 'close' their proposals will they .. so you end up with a problem of distinguishing between 'really' active proposals and ones that are still open but basically done with/closed in all but name

DS

Dean Satchell Wed 4 Sep 2013 10:01AM

@christaklis could you define "admins"? Do you mean someone who is in charge and can control the discussion? My reasoning is that if the discussion gets out of hand and the proposer won't back down and the group has voted against it, then simply start another and put the proposal yourself. I'm trying to be pragmatic, but am open to changing my proposal.

CT

Chris Taklis Wed 4 Sep 2013 10:08AM

first of all sorry, i forgot that admins renamed coordinators.

second, what will happen if someone put block and can't close the proposal, or the proposer won't close the proposal until he/she gets the answer he/she wants? then what we must do? create new discussion, because we can't have another proposal in the same discussion until it closes?

DS

Dean Satchell Wed 4 Sep 2013 10:20AM

Yes @christaklis , create another discussion if the proposer is so unreasonable. They will not win support for their proposal, they are being disruptive. If you create a new discussion then you put a proposal before the disruptor has a chance, and the decision can be reached. All pretty unlikely...

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