Replace Google Groups mailing lists with Diaspora Forum mailing lists
The Diaspora Forum now supports the posting of new topics via email. It also supports posting replies to topics via email too.
In other words, Diaspora Forum has full mailing list functionality, with the addition of a web interface in the shape of the somewhat incredible Discourse suite for those who may not be familiar with mailing list functionality.
I find the fact that the Diaspora project continues to use a Google product absolutely ridiculous and I propose we drop all the existing Google Groups completely and replace each group/list with the mailing list functionality that is supported by the community-run Diaspora Forum.
If you have time spare, there was a similar proposal a number of years ago with about a hundred comments on it which can be found at https://www.loomio.org/d/oasCl9wk/running-our-own-mailing-lists
Jason Robinson Wed 25 Mar 2015 8:08AM
Everything which don’t make money is dropped, the Groups will probably be too (forcing users to use G+ instead).
I do feel like this too. Google just recently started ramping down code.google.com too. I totally wouldn't be surprised to see a ramp down announcement regarding groups in the not so far future.
goob Wed 25 Mar 2015 2:49PM
Automatically register Groups users looks fine to me too: if they are registered, that means they are still interested
It would probably be worth sending a mail to the current mailing list subscribers, out of courtesy, saying something like 'We're going to migrate this list to Diaspora Forum. You will be automatically subscribed to the new list on {date}, so please unsubscribe from this list if you don't want to be subscribed to the new source'.
Flaburgan Wed 25 Mar 2015 3:00PM
Sure! So, let me summarize:
- Make test with discourse and be sure it works correctly
- Update the wiki, the official website and the project to replace GG by Discourse
- Promote officially that we now use Discourse (at least a post with diaspora* HQ)
- Send an e-mail to the GG to say that we migrate and the users will automatically be transfered to Discourse
- Actually migrate the users.
I guess we do not migrate the content, but we don't delete the GG just in case we still need to access it?
Jason Robinson Wed 25 Mar 2015 3:04PM
...what happened to "vote" :D
Flaburgan Wed 25 Mar 2015 3:06PM
Only positive feedback here, but if you think it is necessary I can open one.
Jason Robinson Wed 25 Mar 2015 3:07PM
I think as this idea has already been rejected once we should vote. At least a week, extend if it becomes as close as before.
Poll Created Wed 25 Mar 2015 3:38PM
Change our mailing list from Google Groups to Discourse Closed Thu 30 Apr 2015 9:04PM
Rich set a nice discourse at https://diasporaforum.org/
As a free software project, to avoid Google would be nice, besides, Google is currently dropping a lot of "non-rentable" projects (last one in the list: Google Code).
Discourse proposes the same features than Google Group: be able to create a thread and answer to it using e-mail or a browser.
Vote Yes if you want to quit Google Group and officially promote Discourse as a way to discuss about diaspora*.
Vote No if you want to keep using Googe Group.
Results
| Results | Option | % of points | Voters | |
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Agree | 68.3% | 28 |
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| Abstain | 14.6% | 6 |
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| Disagree | 17.1% | 7 |
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| Block | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Undecided | 0% | 243 |
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41 of 284 people have participated (14%)
Perseo
Wed 25 Mar 2015 3:47PM
I love the idea!
Frode Lindeijer
Wed 25 Mar 2015 3:51PM
Seen discourse being using here and there. I like the setup.
Fuck Google; they're evil.
Flaburgan · Wed 25 Mar 2015 8:03AM
To me, core team are members of the github organization who were approved here on loomio. They are also the persons who received the team@ mails.
About using discourse instead of Google Groups, +1000 of course. We just see with Google Code that hackers are not the target of Google anymore. Everything which don't make money is dropped, the Groups will probably be too (forcing users to use G+ instead).
About the migration well, the solution of Rich can be fine: send an email on the groups saying we are using something else. Automatically register Groups users looks fine to me too: if they are registered, that means they are still interested (they would have unsubscripted if not) but you know how things are going, you read an e-mail "please register there" and then time is missing, you forget... So we will definitely loose some users if we don't migrate automatically.