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Sun 22 Mar 2015 8:11PM

Replace Google Groups mailing lists with Diaspora Forum mailing lists

DU Rich Public Seen by 219

The Diaspora Forum now supports the posting of new topics via email. It also supports posting replies to topics via email too.

In other words, Diaspora Forum has full mailing list functionality, with the addition of a web interface in the shape of the somewhat incredible Discourse suite for those who may not be familiar with mailing list functionality.

I find the fact that the Diaspora project continues to use a Google product absolutely ridiculous and I propose we drop all the existing Google Groups completely and replace each group/list with the mailing list functionality that is supported by the community-run Diaspora Forum.

If you have time spare, there was a similar proposal a number of years ago with about a hundred comments on it which can be found at https://www.loomio.org/d/oasCl9wk/running-our-own-mailing-lists

DU

Sun 22 Mar 2015 8:21PM

I find the fact that the Diaspora project continues to use a Google product absolutely ridiculous and I propose we drop all the existing Google Groups completely and replace each group/list with the mailing list functionality that is supported by the community-run Diaspora Forum.

Agree. I don't even know if these lists are usedn by someone.

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aj Sun 22 Mar 2015 9:31PM

seems like a good idea, rather than having things scatter all round on different sites, the forum is already there and doing a good job of the other things that don't belong on GitHub or Wiki or Loomio :) plus i've never used it as i refuse to have a Google account

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goob Sun 22 Mar 2015 9:48PM

See Run our own mailing list to avoid Google dependancy.

It's good that there is now an alternative working mailing list, but there would need to be some guarantee (1) that the mailing list was within the control of the core team and (2) that it would be available for as long as it was needed.

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Theatre-X Mon 23 Mar 2015 12:54AM

I'm for it.

PP

Pirate Praveen Mon 23 Mar 2015 3:18AM

Yes, this would be great.

JH

Jonne Haß Mon 23 Mar 2015 3:57AM

Please work out a migration strategy before putting this to vote again (note that we did decide this in the past). diaspoa-discuss currently has 856 and diaspora-dev currently has 1602 members we should not loose.

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Rich Mon 23 Mar 2015 9:02AM

Migration need not be complicated. Simply email all current Google Groups users informing them that the Google Groups mailing lists will no longer be accepting new posts from XYZ date and that if they wish to continue receiving the mails they should now subscribe at ABC etc (naturally provide them clear instructions).

DU

Rich Mon 23 Mar 2015 9:03AM

@goob Agreed

(And who are the 'core team'?)

JR

Jason Robinson Mon 23 Mar 2015 8:20PM

I find the fact that the Diaspora project continues to use a Google product absolutely ridiculous

Why is it absolutely ridiculous?

(1) that the mailing list was within the control of the core team and (2) that it would be available for as long as it was needed.

That can hardly be guaranteed by any solution ;) Even Google.

diaspoa-discuss currently has 856 and diaspora-dev currently has 1602 members we should not loose.

I don't see why we have to migrate users. Actually, that would be not very nice to subscribe them to something they haven't opted in to. Those who are interested will follow.

If this goes to a vote I'm totally abstaining this time :P

JR

Jason Robinson Mon 23 Mar 2015 8:23PM

(And who are the ‘core team’?)

Technically, no one is the core team, since we don't have hierarchy like that. In reality, anyone who is active is the core team. I'd say you are.

But in terms of the code base related decisions, the core team is the people listed in the GitHub organization page. However, I don't think anyone agrees the mailing lists are related to the code, so for the mailing lists, I don't think there is a core team.

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