Tue 11 Dec 2018 10:53AM

The UN Migration Pact - Should NZ sign to the principals in the document.

DG Daymond Goulder-Horobin Public Seen by 143

I have heard many sides to this particular debacle and am interested in forming an official position on this topic, this would allow me to go to certain parties and advocate for whatever position the membership favors.

Personally, I am not big on seeking approval on our policies from international entities in general. I would rather not have to worry about committing to something regardless of whether it is binding or non-binding and would rather set our own standards and codes for migration policy. However, this is something to consider.

I have read the original document which I will link to. A lot of it seems O.K on the whole. However, like a Terms & Conditions, we should agree with absolutely every single thing before signing. And even then we would want some room to breathe if we could.

I can't say that I have done a lot of research on the pact. However, some problems have been identified. In particular, our freedom to dissect and critically analyze migration policy seems to have come under fire to some extent, feel free to correct me on this but it is from what I have seen.

Will add more tommorrow.



Poll Created Tue 11 Dec 2018 10:20PM

Should NZ sign the UN Migration Pact document Closed Mon 17 Dec 2018 10:03AM

by Daymond Goulder-Horobin Mon 17 Dec 2018 9:17PM

I put this as a question of why rather than why not in terms of signing the agreement, despite it being non-binding as people have pointed out. There is too much disagreement among ourselves and the wider community to consider signing this pact. As a result the Party will recommend to not sign the agreement at this stage.

This will be used to Gauge our party position on this topic.


Results Option % of points Voters
No 66.7% 4 SD DG MB GA
Yes 33.3% 2 JB GB

6 of 657 people have participated (0%)


Daymond Goulder-Horobin Tue 11 Dec 2018 10:43PM


Don't want to be held to anything, I feel like we need to agree on everything to sign, even one thing and its like a terms and conditions document.


Geoff Anderson Wed 12 Dec 2018 8:37PM


This global agenda destroys everywhere it has happened


Stephen Dickson Thu 13 Dec 2018 5:17AM


All immigration should be stopped completely until the country catches up on housing and services etc


Jo Booth Fri 14 Dec 2018 11:47PM


I think NZ needs to adhere to the basics of the global community - and while the UN is a bit hit and miss, this is "non-legally binding, cooperative framework" and we should at least head in that direction.

Personally I've seen greater vibrancy in my local community with immigrants and I enjoy the diversity that comes from "importing" other ways of thinking about society.

So in balance I say yes, look at it.. see if we can make it fit.


Daymond Goulder-Horobin Tue 11 Dec 2018 10:21PM

Short notice, given the deadline for signing.


Mason Bee Wed 12 Dec 2018 7:22AM

No. It's badly written, refers to to many other documents, and is about migration. We have had years of migration leading to massive imbalances in this country. If it talked about refugees, then yes, that is something the we should be advocating for more of.

In general I am in favour of the UN. This is not one of those times.


Daymond Goulder-Horobin Thu 13 Dec 2018 4:05AM

I've always had support for the U.N, especially in regards to Human Rights re: Assange and Dotcom. Not this time.


Geoff Anderson Wed 12 Dec 2018 8:11PM

The UN has no ones best interests at heart but its own.
Refugees are mostly the result of warmongering & economic sanctions by UN nation members.
In New Zealand no one will benefit but the already rich.
Spreading New Zealand's limited resources among more people means that most of us will get less.
Our power infrastructure, housing, schooling, roads, medical system and culture will stress & break.
How can I be so certain? Well its happened everywhere else that has gone along with it.

Calling it “a source of prosperity, innovation and sustainable development in our globalized world” is just rhetoric. Claiming it is the “product of an unprecedented review of evidence and data gathered during an open, transparent and inclusive process” as a fancy way of saying, this will screw you.
On behalf of New Zealanders please spit in the eye of those pushing it.

Sorry I’m not normally so radical about such topics, but anyone who has watched this go down around the world knows the reality.


Daymond Goulder-Horobin Fri 14 Dec 2018 10:19PM

I have extended to the end of the Internet Party AGM

Load More