I think it is important to establish a baseline. I think first decision needs to be do we get rid of copyright completely or reform it?

Also do we mean all IP or just copyright here.

I personally think it should be reformed.. We should find a way to make copyright benefit artists and creators rather than corporations. Completely getting rid of it would also counteract tons of hard work in the area of free content licensing, which has been a common argument against copyright abolition in general.

I agree. I think it needs to be seriously reformed but there is still a need for copyright. It is important that everyone that discusses the pirate party is clear on why we need copyright though.

personally, i think copyright and patents should be abolished wholesale. government granted monopolies on IDEAS is abhorrent to me. we also need to aggressively break up telephone and cable company monopolies.

I think there should be limited copyright for commercial purposes. I think attribution is enough for non-commercial uses. I think there should be a bit more for commercial purposes. I think of IP limited monopolies as an incentive to share.

i don't see the relevance of the original question, why can't we focus on copyright separately from patents and trademark?

one compromise we've come up with on
http://piratenpad.de/c0h3BdIZ2v
is something like "We support gradually phasing out copyright."

The original question was asking if we want to discuss just copyright here, or are we discussing all IP.

I've never been convinced of how a short commerical purposes monopoly is harmful.

i know that, but many of us believe that it is harmful i was trying to come up with a compromise
i don't understand Nicholas DeSalvio's argument about free culture, it's like saying marriage equality should be avoided because it would destroy the LGBT culture