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Wed 30 Apr 2014 11:54AM

Planning the may issue

EB Edward Bauer Public Seen by 9

Hey all designers I have gone over the word count and I think this will roughly fit in the paper for the 12 pages. I have taken the standard News, Comment, Culture & Sport model for the order. What do people think of the arrangement?

Kellys says she would like to work on the poster cover I am going to work on the rest of the pages. I don't know what Sean you are able or want to be doing? I will call you.

For how we should do this - I am away this Sat & Sunday. So I think I should go to try and have the first draft done by Friday. I will post it up for thoughts and edits and then when I come back I will make the final version monday. However if Sean or someone else is are around this weekend you can take over working on it this weekend.

If we have serious disagreements over the weekend we will have an emergency Design working group meeting Monday 6pm at which we will finalise it . To send in Tuesday.

Edd

Page 1 A really cool Poster Cover
Page 2 Local Elections coverage
Page 3 Advert Full page
Page 4 don't vote & Underfunded safeguarding services leaves unidentified children at risk
page 5 Crisis payments underspent in Birmingham & Undemocratic minster for the midllands
page 6 Advert full page
page 7 ATOS & Green Homes
page 8 Trojan horse or silencing of dissent, what next? & Editoral (Dorter)
page 9 UKIP & Calling all women
Page 10 Shout Film Fest & John Lennon & ¼ page CATC advert
page 11 half page Coop advert & three penny opera
Page 12 F1: the Season so far

KR

Kelly Rogers Wed 30 Apr 2014 4:53PM

Personally, I think it makes sense to have editorial stuff on the inside cover --> i.e. calling all women -- but I guess it doesn't really matter.

Anyway here's the font design I've done. Let me know what you think.

KR

Kelly Rogers Wed 30 Apr 2014 5:06PM

Also I'd quite like to work on the culture section as well if possible

SF

Sean Farmelo Thu 1 May 2014 8:41AM

I know I wasn't at the meeting but I reckon trojan horse and UKIP should go on the front page and then have the poster page in the middle somewhere - it would give a little more space because it wouldn't have to say slaney street on it and I reckon it would make a little more sense.
Poster is good though, I will try think of some constructive criticism though :P
Actually only thing I think is it might be cool to create our own image rather than using the satchi and satchi line of people thing? dunno - anyhow I can't do any work today but will try do some tommorow.

Is the dropbox working @edwardbauer ?

EB

Edward Bauer Thu 1 May 2014 2:00PM

@seanfarmelo if we put both the Trojan horse & the UKIP on the front page then we would have a front page entirely full of text they are both pretty massive articles.

Further myself and Amanda Dorter both raised concerns about the Trojan horse article politically at the meeting - I don't think it would be in the spirit of the editoral session to put it on the front page.

I don't personally think the UKIP is front page either not because it is bad but I just don't think it is exciting headline material.

I don't think we have real headline material in the articles - hence why I think the art cover on some piece of relevant information is the way forward. I thought the best would have been the election Kelly has opted for this on the job center sign on every day news.

I think her thing is really good and we should 100% use it. It could go somewhere in the paper - this would mean it would have to be in B/W through the colour pages are currently taken up by adverts in the paper.

However I don't agree that the UKIP/Trojan horse should be front page.

I think we should either create a new peice of art for the cover or move the elections onto the front.

@lindsey what do you think?

L

Lindsey Thu 1 May 2014 2:12PM

I think we should stick with a poster cover - it was posed and agreed by the EB when deciding which articles to use, and I would feel wrong going against that decision. Personally I think that a poster cover is really eye-catching and will encourage people to pick up the paper in the first place.

I like Kelly's image as a response to what's happened, but I don't think it makes sense as a cover because there's no follow up on the inside. The cover image should either be related to election coverage or something that represents us and our values: think of it as the advert for what follows between the covers.

EB

Edward Bauer Thu 1 May 2014 3:09PM

@lindsey @seanfarmelo @kellyrogers we did say at the meeting we would put some small box article on the dole changes so it will be inside in some small form.

By 9pm tonight we have to have decided what we are going to do.

I propose we take three way vote now. If it wins we go with Kelly's cover if it fails we do a redesign and try and make and election cover. Abstain will mean neither option and we go for some like sean suggests with articles on the front page.

SF

Sean Farmelo Thu 1 May 2014 3:11PM

I'm cool with it being frontpage. Do think it needs a bit of a redesign though :D

  • sorry didn't realise the trojan horse and ukip ones were so long!
EB

Poll Created Thu 1 May 2014 3:11PM

Front page decision Closed Sun 4 May 2014 4:05PM

Yes = go with Kellys cover
No = Redesign an electoral cover
Abstain = articles on the cover

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 50.0% 2 L EB
Abstain 25.0% 1 DU
Disagree 25.0% 1 SF
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 2 KR D

4 of 6 people have participated (66%)

EB

Edward Bauer
Agree
Thu 1 May 2014 3:13PM

after some thought I think it is best to stick with Kelly's it is a really really good design. Further I think we are pressed for time and I m not sure another such good quality cover can be designed in the re-design. but, I'm happy to give it a go.

SF

Sean Farmelo
Disagree
Thu 1 May 2014 3:13PM

Think the workfare newspaper squares bit is good but could do with more explanation about the cuts and why they are bad as this is front page might put people off with just the sentence there.

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