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ok, @hgo , now I understand. I was confused & thought the whole pad needed to be translted. I will try to do the translation tomorrow or sth

I think we're putting a time pressure on ourselves for no reason (once again, GA is creating problems).

There are currently 0 pirates in the Pirate Party who know about the existence of the statutes and respect them. Therefore, nobody will complain if the convocation is sent 5 weeks before the GA instead of the supposed 6 weeks. Also, what matters is not the text of the statutes anyway, but the spirit -> the "6 weeks" period is just there to make sure everyone has enough time to prepare the GA. Most active people already know about the 2 topics of this GA, so it doesn't really change anything for them to send it this weekend or next weekend. Finally, we won't have to rush the article about Mastodon and we would send the newsletter at the original time (middle of the month).

So I'm proposing we send this newsletter/convocation for the weekend 14-15/04.

Pourquoi est-ce que c'est problématique maintenant @vanecx ? Better to wait for translation in order to be sure about the contents...

I'm worried we're trying to finish everything for this weekend (text of the newsletter/convocation + article on mastodon), also everything needs to be 100% translated correctly (and as much as we appreciate the efforts @koenvdp does, we cannot ask him to translate everything in such a short notice) and none of the texts is finished right now (except the Liège article in french).

If we wait with Mastodon, we have at least something to tell in the next newsletter.

English below

J'attendrai ce week-end pour voir ce qu'il nous restera à faire. Pour moi c'est faisable, mais évidemment cela va mettre beaucoup de pression sur @koenvdp, ce que je ne voudrais pas.. :/ Si nous ne sommes pas prêt samedi, je propose de reporter au week-end suivant. Nous pourrions également envoyer la newsletter un jour de semaine, sinon.

Notez que la plupart des gens sont de toutes façons en vacances en ce moment.

Pour l'article Mastodon, je ne vois pas le problème si on le publie dimanche au lieu de lundi 😐

Par contre, le gros problème que j'ai, c'est que je ne suis pas sûr d'obtenir la liste des membres en ordre de cotisation à temps :(

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I would wait until this week-end to see what we have to do. For me it's feasible, but it will put a lot of pressure on @koenvdp, which I wouldn't want... :/ If we're not ready on Saturday, I propose to postpone it to this next weekend. We could also send the newsletter on a weekday.

Note that most people are on holiday anyway.

For the article about Mastodon, I don't see the problem if we publish it on Sunday instead of Monday 😐

However, the big problem I have is that I'm not sure to get the list of people who paid their membership fee on time :(

Did you talk to @patrickinstalle ?

Yes. He was busy, but now I think he is working on it

translation of https://fr.pirateparty.be/vert-ardent-un-noble-projet-a-la-derive/ can now be found on the pad https://pad.pirateparty.be/p/RuptureDéfinitive?utm_campaign=user_mentioned&utm_medium=email&utm_source=thread_mailer

(I guess it would be a good idea to fix deadlines-if not now, for follwing newsletters--deadline newsletter french, then deadline approval, then deadline translation--to make clear for everyone what is expected, & also for practical reasons, for exemple, if no agreement on deadlines is there, it would be possible to agree on the french version of the newsletter some hours before it has to be sent---which makes translation to dutch then should be ready in a few hours, although the translator is maybe not even at his desk at that moment)

Thanks @koenvdp ! :D

For the deadlines, I agree with you ! I propose this :
* 6 April (evening) : newsletter must be finished in one language
* 7 April (evening) : newsletter is translated
* 8 April (morning) : newsletter is sent
Although these are not strong deadlines as I said above : that's not a real problem if we are one or two days late.

@josse Could you check the newsletter ? I made many changes, and I'd like to see if it's ok for you. Also, I'd like to know if you or pirates from Crew Antwerp could give one or two sentences to put in the newsletter about their "Kick off" event for the election ?

I think we are almost there :)

For the Mastodon article, is it a problem if it's not included in this month's newsletter ? :/

Dear @hgo , thanks 4 the proposal. However, I'd like to mention that I am absent saturday 7th of april, only in the morning I will be at my desk. (So, if I do not see a newsletter which is finished in a language at that moment, someone else will have to translate it (which will be no problem, I guess) )

please give a sign when the newsletter is finished. As soon as it is ready (and if I am not on the road, away from my desk), I will start translating (if someone else wouldn't have done it)

I'm waiting for people to review the newsletter... @josse or anybody else who speaks French ?

https://pad.pirateparty.be/p/newsletterapril2018

J'attends que la newsletter soit relue... @josse ou quelqu'un d'autre qui parle français ?

Pour moi, il faut juste effacer tout ce qui est commentaire et double à cause de l'historique d'édition. (nettoyer) Le texte même me parait bien. (j'ai encore mis un commentaire pour l'événément d'Anvers)

J'ai nettoyé ! Tu peux commencer à traduire @koenvdp :)

Pour le kick off d'Anvers, c'est comme vous voulez, si quelqu'un se sent de faire une belle phrase.. Sinon il sera de toute façon dans la liste des évènements ;)

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I've cleaned the pad ! You can start translating @koenvdp :)

For the Antwerpen's kick off, this is as you wish, if someone wants to write a nice sentence.. Otherwise, it will be in the event list anyways ;)

I've made the translation of the newsletter as it was on 7 april 8:58. By the way, when I came to the end, I noticed the newsletter isn't finished yet...; I would have preferred translating the newsletter after it is finished, & nog before it isn finished, I have to admit. When changes are made in French, some should also applicate it in Dutch now.

Thanks Koen ! :)

No worries, the newsletter is finished. We are not sure to keep the last sentence, that's why it looks unfiinished at the end.

Can someone review the translation ?

I'm adding the events on the newsletter. Don't forget to add your event on the wiki, otherwise it won't be on the newsletter...

The formatting for the French newsletter is ready ;) Those who have access can take a look at it.

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Merci Koen ! :)

Pas de soucis, la newsletter est terminée. Nous ne sommes pas sûr de garder la dernière phrase, donc c'est normal si la fin a l'air incomplète.

Est-ce que quelqu'un peut relire la traduction ?

Je suis en train d'ajouter les évènements à la newsletter. N'oubliez pas d'ajouter votre évènement sur le wiki, sinon il n'apparaîtra pas dans la newsletter...

La mise en page pour la version fr est déjà prête ;) Celles et ceux qui y ont accès peuvent déjà y jeter un coup d'œil.

I put 2 comments.

I agree with 1 comment, and have my doubts with the second --see more on the pad

Let me know when the text is ready :)

Who decides about that?

Just let me know which word should we use for "fil de discussion loomio" / "loomio thread" :p

I've been searching for the answer on the net, & the answer is surpriselingly hard to find-in fact, the word mostly used for Thread in dutch seems to be... using Thread, the English word itself (see e.g. https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_(nieuwsgroep_en_e-mail) )---I adadpted this in the translation

The newsletter is programmed to be sent this Monday at 7AM, thanks to @hgo who put everything needed together.

And thanks to @patrickinstalle this newsletter will be sent to pirates who paid their membership in the past couple of years !

I've started the pad for the newsletter of May :

https://pad.pirateparty.be/p/newslettermay2018

Except the GA, what should we put in the newsletter ?

For the GA, we would need a more detailled agenda maybe ? and maybe put the link to the website's proposal (if it's ready) ?

I suggest the following deadlines (but it's not a problem if we are late of one or two days):
* 10 May : the newsletter must be finished in one language
* 11 May (evening) : newsletter is translated
* 12 May (morning) : newsletter is sent

Hopefully, there shouldn't be much to translate this time :)

It's almost a copy-paste from last time as we don't seem to have real news this time, so I only added an invitation to Matrix (chatroom) and to Mastodon (social network).

Please do edit it tonight so it can be sent as planned : https://pad.pirateparty.be/p/newslettermay2018

Last call : please add your events on the wiki now, so they can be included in the newsletter that will be sent in the next hours.

The newsletter is scheduled for tomorrow (monday) at 7am :)

Newsletter for February:
Publish before the 9-10th feb (preferably before) (see report Pirate Lab 26/01)

• Bâteau crowdfunding + site piratenpartij.vlaanderen?
• Liège (à voir avec Crew Liège)
• Demande de participation aux élections + article élections
• Particratie (à titre personnel ou non)
• Loomio -> + article State Council HgO in het Nederlands? (check Koen)
• Finances for the elections : proposal (see loomio thread that HgO will create)

Okay, so I'll try to prepare the newsletter. We should send it before next Lab, as we have this ongoing proposal for the elections' budget.

Here is the pad : https://pad.pirateparty.be/p/newsletterfebruary2019

@Josse : Do you have some text for the boat's crowdfunding and / or for the election in Flanders ?

@vanecx : Do the Pirates of Liège want to say something for the elections ? ^{^}

Did I miss something else ?

I adapted the pad. You could already check if it is going into the right direction. Still need a good form to support candidates in West-Flanders and Liège and I need to know to which elections they participate.

In W-Vl we have only a list for Flanders

We keep track of stuff for W-Vl at the bottom of https://pad.pirateparty.be/p/Elections_2019

I updated the French version (mainly the Liège paragraph) and also the long article on the elections (basically one paragraph about our dear friend Martine). The current version is fine for me now!

Super ! J'ai relu et reformulé quelques phrases. J'ai aussi rajouté un paragraphe pour la proposition de contribuer au recours au Conseil d'État.

Pour moi le texte est presque terminé :)

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Thanks ! I proof-read and rephrased some sentences. I also added a paragraph regarding the proposal for contributing to the appeal to the State Council.

For me, the text is almost finished :)

I added some Dutch translation and said the form for the signatures is at the end of the article (in French too). Dutch could use some re-reading. Still don't know how to tell people to HELP us validate the lists.

Thanks ! If Dutch is ok, I propose that we send the newsletter this evening, as we have the lab tomorrow ^' We could still send another newsletter mid-March with more details on how help us…

I'm preparing the Mailpoet's draft for the newsletters

By the way, don't forget to put your event on the wiki, otherwise it won't be on the newsletter !!

Here you can check if your event is listed : https://wiki.pirateparty.be/Newsletter/Next_events

Newsletter sent ! \o/

You can see it in French, Dutch, English, and Esperanto… wait no :p