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Iwi affiliation

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The census is the only source of comprehensive iwi information. Iwi listed as part of the Iwi classification can get comprehensive information regarding their people, at highly detailed levels . Iwi use the classification to formalise their iwi status, as it is used as the source of official statistics on iwi population numbers for Treaty claims and public policy.

The 2009 iwi classification update working group noted several issues with the iwi classification review process, and with the guidelines for inclusion that are part of the iwi statistical standard (Iwi classification). Statistics NZ experienced some negative reaction following a review process. The 2009 working group recommended that the statistical standard and classification be reviewed before the 2018 Census.

Our current recommendations relating to iwi affiliation

  • We recommend that iwi affiliation is included in the 2018 Census. However, the iwi affiliation question, iwi statistical standard – including guidelines for inclusion in the iwi classification – and the iwi classification itself may change depending on the outcomes of a review of the statistical standard for iwi. This review is in the initial stages but is planned to be completed in time for the development of the 2018 Census content.

See our preliminary view of 2018 Census content (page 27) for a more detailed discussion on iwi affiliation information

See 2013 Census information by variable for information on the iwi affiliation variable

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Luke (kaiwhakarite) Fri 24 Apr 2015 4:46AM

E ngā mana, e ngā reo piki mai kake mai ki te whārangi ipurangi nei ki te tuku whakaaro, tuku korero hoki mo tēnei kaupapa tatauranga. Tēnei au te kaiwhakarite mo tēnei whārangi ipurangi, nā reira nau mai haere mai koutou katoa.

Welcome one and all to this discussion thread. We look forward to all contributions to this important kaupapa. I am the facilitator for the iwi affiliation topic and I am really looking forward to hearing from you on this topic. Welcome everyone.

I am also facilitating the Māori descent topic.

Paimarire ki a tatou katoa.

RM

Robin MacIntosh Fri 8 May 2015 1:51AM

Bit daunting to be the first. The inclusion of a question regarding registration status would be particularly useful for iwi attempting to understand their registered population in relation to their Census population. Suggesting this is in addition to self-identified iwi and not replacing.

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Luke (kaiwhakarite) Fri 8 May 2015 3:37AM

Tēnā koe Robin. Wonderful to have you kick this kaupapa off. Ka nui ngā mihi. Lets see who else will jump on board to support your thinking. I am sure you are aware of this piece of work Tallying Tribes: Waikato-Tainui in the Census and Iwi Register supporting your view.

RM

Robin MacIntosh Fri 8 May 2015 3:58AM

Kia ora Luke

Lots to think about.

Ngāi Tahu has a fledgling Data Users Group that includes “data translators” from the major sectors of our organisation (education, health, policy) as well as the staff who support (IT, GIS). The group has been charged with responding to the consultation.

So, I am encouraging all to contribute to the Loomio discussions and next week will are workshopping Ngāi Tahu data. Hopefully we will better understand our future needs as a result of this. Looking at the workshops you are offering. Would a Ngāi Tahu workshop be a possibility?

Ngā mihi

Robin

Robin MacIntosh| Programme Leader – Research and Development |Te Runanga o Ngāi Tahu
PO Box 13 046 | Christchurch 8141| DDI 03 353 6529

Mob 027 208 0398

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Luke (kaiwhakarite) Fri 8 May 2015 5:22AM

@RobinM excellent. Look forward to that participation here. StatsNZ is looking to retain the iwi affiliation question in 2018 and we would welcome any korero around this kaupapa.

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Aaron Norgrove Mon 18 May 2015 1:06AM

Kia ora Luke.

Speaking from experience using Iwi codefile data, I think there needs to be some work done on how the codefile is compiled as there are a number of inaccuracies.

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Luke (kaiwhakarite) Mon 18 May 2015 2:38AM

Tena koe Aaron. Welcome to this kaupapa. I am wondering whether any of the other people watching this thread have had similar experiences with code file use or in the Iwi affiliation area. The review of the Iwi standard and classification certainly offer the opportunity to look at coding. This review is in its early stages now.

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Tahu Kukutai Thu 21 May 2015 2:04AM

Tena koe e Luke. Great to have you facilitating this korero. But isn't it fast becoming redundant given the census transformation programme that is well underway within Stats NZ. What's the 'go to' plan for when the govt ditches the census in favour of linked administrative data? What's being done to future proof future iwi data needs to ensure that robust iwi data are collected across administrative datasets? This is an important discussion that needs to be had well before the transformation occurs.

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Emily Shrosbree Fri 22 May 2015 2:37AM

Hi Tahu

This is Emily from the Census Transformation team at Statistics New Zealand. Thanks for your continued interest in our Census Transformation work. To give others some background, in March 2012 the New Zealand Government agreed that SNZ do some work to investigate whether there were viable alternative ways of producing small-area population and socio-demographic statistics.

We’ve been investigating a range of possibilities, and a first progress report on the potential for using administrative sources to produce census information was presented to government in February 2014. You can find a summary of our early findings here -> http://www.stats.govt.nz/methods/research-papers/topss/census-admin-data.aspx

In summary, existing administrative data sources cannot at present act as a replacement for the current census. We have been continuing our investigations through 2014 and 2015. This includes engagement with key users of census information to determine their needs going forward. Determining essential census information requirements for Māori is one of our focus areas of investigation, and this includes understanding future iwi information needs.

The next major report to government is in October 2015 and only then will we know more about any preferred future direction for the New Zealand census.

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chris hickson Wed 27 May 2015 7:14PM

Most of us are New Zealanders. What we identify as is not necessarily an accurate reflection of the 'ethnicities' we have come from. I realise even that is not likely to be accurate because 'English' or 'Dutch' or whatever were likely to have been a result of several other 'ethnicities' hundreds of years previous. I think it is too soon to New Zealanders an ethnicity. I think it would be interesting to give people a choice to ask they 1) what they identify as ... as different from 2) what ethnicities have contributed to them as a person. Folks ... we all 'belong' so this suggestion is not meant to threaten peoples sense of belonging, it would be interesting to know which generation arrived in NZ and what ethnicities make up each person. Thats my view.

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