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Proposed change to e-NABLE's Loomio voting process

Jeremy SimonJeremy Simon Fri 28 Aug 2020 6:53PMPublicSeen by 95

We've noticed a potential shortcoming in our current voting process. In a recent proposal from Nate Munro, several people commented that they would like to see some changes in the proposal. But since others had already voted, Nate was hesitant to make changes to what was being proposed.

Loomio makes it easy to start a discussion thread (like this one, for example) and then later add a proposal to that thread to allow voting to take place.

We are proposing that moving forward, all new funding requests start with a discussion thread, which would run for at least one week. Only after that discussion has taken place would the proposal be added to allow voting to commence.

In keeping with this proposed approach, I'll leave this discussion thread open for a week before starting a vote.

Please share your thoughts and comments below.

Jon Schull

Jon SchullFri 28 Aug 2020 7:16PM

  1. I think there should also be a minimum duration for voting as well (a week)?

  1. a. We might also like to have some way of dealing with important cases for when (1 week+1 week) is too burdensome.

  2. To be clear, the Loomio voting process IS designed to allow people to change votes as proposals are revised. But timing does become an issue as a deadline approaches.

    The pre-voting discussion should help minimize the need for proposal changes during voting. HOWEVER, proposal changes during voting should continue to be allowed; perhaps with a mandatory N-day extension to allow people to review and change votes.?

P.S. This is not to rain on Nate's parade. He's doing great work, tt was a good proposal, and I think the community voted made a humane and informed judgement with the information and time available. But more information and time should be available in the future.


Jeremy Simon

Modification to Loomio voting process for e-NABLE proposals

proposal by Jeremy Simon Closed Fri 11 Sep 2020 2:02PM

Outcome
by Jeremy Simon Fri 11 Sep 2020 2:39PM

Proposal is approved. Will update Loomio voting instructions accordingly.

We are proposing that moving forward, all new funding requests start with a discussion thread, which would run for at least one week. Only after that discussion has taken place would the proposal be added to allow voting to commence.

We further propose that each proposal should require a minimum voting duration of 7 days.

Exceptions to both of the above rules may be approved by the Strategic Planning Committee for situations where an expedited voting process is deemed appropriate.

We further propose that those initiating a new proposal be invited (and encouraged) to join one of our weekly SPC (Strategic Planning Committee) meetings to discuss their proposal. The recording of that discussion can then be shared along with the proposal to provide a better understanding of what's being proposed.

Results

ResultsOptionVotes% of votes cast% of eligible voters
Agree239614Jon SchullebubarJeremy SimonShashiWayneRich BSkip MeetzeKen BiceRichard VanderMeyQuinn MorleyMagiBob RiegerMichelle MassieMichael BowmanNelson Reynolds WalshDavid ElentukhBenMadison BondocWill McCaffreyShawn Mathiesen
Abstain141Everton Lins
Disagree000 
Block000 
Undecided14085Andrew BrowDeleted accountJen OwenJenMaria EsquelaJohn LandreneauAlbert ChiPeter BinkleyJordan SayeghAndrew DeLisleJeff PowellAshley TurnerLuis BermudezThierry OquidamJack SutcliffeDoc DaviesTheoGlori DasAsad JabbarJacob Bryant

24 of 164 votes cast (14% participation)

Everton Lins

Everton Lins
Abstain
Fri 4 Sep 2020 2:45PM

What if all new funding requests start with a project pitch at one of the SPC meetings and after that start the discussion thread? This way everyon that want to vote can whatch the recorded meeting and then decice.

Ken Bice

Ken Bice
Agree
Fri 4 Sep 2020 2:45PM

In what space should proposals be posted on the hub? Do we create a separate one?

Ben

Ben
Agree
Fri 4 Sep 2020 2:45PM

Discussions have been very helpful for me in shaping proposals and collaborating with the community.

Wayne

Wayne
Agree
Fri 4 Sep 2020 2:45PM

A discussion before any decision is just a good practice.

Will McCaffrey

Will McCaffrey
Agree
Fri 4 Sep 2020 2:45PM

This is very fair.

Magi

Magi
Agree
Fri 4 Sep 2020 2:45PM

This sounds very fair and reasonable

Rich B

Rich B
Agree
Fri 4 Sep 2020 2:45PM

This will provide a review process by piers.

Michael Bowman

Michael BowmanFri 4 Sep 2020 3:34PM

Could someone give an example of a situation where an expedited voting process would be appropriate?

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