Discuss the possibility of organising the next NESEM in Oslo on 13-14 October 2018.
we should probably formulate some kind of ideas to be able to start taking steps towards going to Norway for the Social Forum there as we discussed in Helsinki. Yay! Maybe Ole could give us some more info? Does the forum have a website and what kind of proposal do we need to have if we want to have programme there? The definite deadline was 9 May, right? And what were the exact dates? Those could be also added to the above description of this thread, so they are easy to find.
Thanks for creating the group to facilitate communication and ideas Laura. Don't know if its already to late now for signing up for the Norwegian social forum since 9 May already passed but, as for wherever the meeting is going to be held, I was thinking that it might be a good idea to formulate an initial common goal/aim of the network as well as for the meeting (why is there a need for a network? what are the common challenges we face in Northern Europe that calls for stronger networking, peer learning and commons strategies? Some of what we discussed during the weekend). As many groups, organisations and actors performing work in lines with SSE are not themselves using the term solidarity economy to formulate their work, this could work as a base for discussion during the next meeting to formulate a common ground between actors and what the common goal is. Also, just in terms of bringing actors together for the next meeting, I think this will be helpful. What do you all say about starting with this to get some discussion going?
Dear all. Thanks for the patience, but I do finally have exciting news for you. Yeasterday there was a meeting in the programme comitte that agreed to give two slots in the program for Nesem activities. It should probablys one slot staurday 13th of october and one slot sunday 14th. The program is organized in such a way, that friday 12th will discuss challenges and the current situation. saturday 13th new solutions (solidarity economy) and sunday is for networking and stretegizing.
These meetings should be public and open. I do suggest that the saturday meetings are more kind of presentatins, and that the sunday meeting is a round table discussion.
We can in addition try to find a meeting space for the NESEM network to have its own closed network meetings.
The deadline is the 29th, not the 9th of may. By this date we need to have (a decision on whether we will go throug with this and) proper descriptions of the meetings to go in the program. We will loose the slots after 29th, if we don't make a decision with a description for this deadline.
I hope this message finds you well, and that you all are eager to meet in Oslo in october.
Hi dear Ole and all - good to hear of this! Thanks also Laura and Madeleine for writing - I fell after NESEM into another for me demainding deadline period, and forinstance havent gotten yet to the write up wanted to do. But so these slots sound positive! Madeleine, I think indeed those are the questions we worked around during the NESEM. I would like to via own report writing go back to where NESEM left us, and indeed continue from there.
The Nordic Muncipalism thread also continues to intrest to take forward. But perhaps it is a sub-title which can be taken along under the proposed sessions.
So Ole, we need concrete descriptions of the sessions now?
Great news Ole! It would be good to know the specifics as Ruby was asking as well. What kind of description is actually needed in terms of length etc.?
I agree with Madeleine, it would be good to write a common text to make the call spread wider. How should we go about it? Someone creates a draft document where we can all comment? Should we do this at the same time with the event descriptions, what do you think? Probably also depends on the format the event descriptions need to be in.
I think it makes sense to draft an invitation in parallell with the event description. The event description should only be brief. 5 - 10 lines each event. With the first two lines working on its own as a short version.
Does the lack of activity suggest that there will be no network meeting in Oslo during the Norwegian Social Forum?
Sorry for the inactivity, I also fell into a stressful period of deadlines so sorry Ole for not picking up on your effort to get us a slot in the social forum. Its great news and a perfect opportunity to continue working towards a solid network. I have a feeling that the low activity here might not be due to a lack of interest but rather the problem of working remote without any real structure of who is doing what. If no one already started drafting on an event description I could do that during the coming week? Are we all agreeing on that the event will be more like a meeting, continuing where we left of and incorporating some of the questions that we have noted in the document from our meeting?
We can still have the slot. So very good initaitve Madeleine. I think there should be two meetings. Please have a look at my post above on the structure of the conference/forum.
Yes, I agree part of it probably is due to lack of structure. But I think for the first meeting that it would be good to have more input from more people on how the meeting should be set up, and who should give the introductions.
Ok I've made a draft on the event description which I'll attach below. I agree with you Ole that it would be good to have input from more people on how the meeting should be set up so all of you please comment and use this draft as a starting point for discussing the events:
Sorry for the inactivity from my part as well and thanks to Madeleine for the initiative! I actually had written this message several days ago but it seems I didn't push the send button, so it wasn't sent... :/
However, it's great to hear that we can however still have a slot! Could it be a good idea that we have a Skype (or similar) meeting soon with the people who want to be part of this? I'm available during daytime mostly, evenings this week are a bit difficult.
If you think this is a good idea, we can also do a timing poll here.
Yes, I think a Skype meeting would really help us to get started with organising this. I am pretty flexible about my schedule this and next week so daytime would work for me. If there’s more interest in having a meeting a time pol would be great, thank you Laura!
Dear Madeleine and Laura. I am really sorry, I lost this thread during summer holidays. We are now finalizing the program for the conference. If still interested we could find some room in the program for this. But we would need to make som quick decision in order to be included in printed program and such.
Dear Ole and all,
I really do hope you follow-up and continue the building up of a Northern European Solidarity Economy space / network!
Plus the Norwegian Social Forum is an excellent opportunity to do so!
Dear Jason. Have you considered attending? We are hoping to also
set up a discussion on the relevance/potential of the WSF process.
I really do hope you follow-up and continue the building up of
a Northern European Solidarity Economy space / network!
Plus the Norwegian Social Forum is an excellent opportunity to
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Nice to hear back from you Ole! :) Agree with you Jason, nowegian social forum would be a great opportunity to continue building a network, however we would need to have some people to take responsibility for organising it. Laura and Ruby (and other from commons.fi that you are in contact with) are you still interested in building a network and having a second meeting? Since you took leadership in organising the first meeting it would be good to know more about what’s your thoughts on this.
I'm really sorry, I also got a bit lost as I had tons of work before returning to field work in Bolivia where I am at the moment.
I won't be able to go to Oslo and I don't know if any of our Finnish fellows are either. What I would be able to do, is to spread the word to some people who weren't able to attend our meetup in Helsinki. However, as I will still be doing fieldwork and will be busy for a couple of weeks more, I won't be able to help with the programme. It's a pity if nothing will happen in Oslo but I think we would have needed a few more hands in the organisation to make it happen a bit earlier.
Madeleine, are you able to go to Oslo? Maybe if there are couple of people still attending, there could just be some sort of short info session and a more informal meeting? What do you think?
Hi dear all - apologising for the silence from my end. In the line up of things, I havent been able to push this more to the forefront and act on things. I am certainly still interested in us taking further what we started in Helsinki, but have now been royally missing the boat for this one.
Are there people going to Oslo, to do forinstance as suggested by Laura? We are having a commons.fi meeting on wednesday, I will bring it up too. But so it is clear that no concerted efforts here now
This being said - and whilst again regretting we are missing the opportunity of Oslo - can we try to identify something else next year? Could this perhaps connect to the ongoing process of the WSF of transformative economies ?! Could we have a NESEM meeting working words the WSFof transformative economies in 2020? Perhaps Jason could offer some insight on what kind of a sequence we could imagine?
Hi everyone! Tomorrow the Norwegian Social Forum is starting and... we won't be there. It's unfortunate, but it happens. Of course there will be many other occasions (and I will be proposing also to look at the WSF of transformative economies process)... but how can we seize this (apparently) lost opportunity for the better?
Ole, it would be great if you could tell us what you see in the Norwegian SF that could potentially be linked to what we discussed in Helsinki, who could be contacted of the participants, etc. And let's keep the thread going... sometimes just a few words may re-energize a discussion!
And by the way, to Ole and all the organisers of the Norwegian Social Forum: really sorry not to be there, I hope you have a great Forum !
Dear @madeleine1, @laurakumpuniemi , @rubyvanderwekken and @jn42 .
We have now finished the Norwegian Social Forum. It was a great success. We changed the venue so it har more a feeling of meetings of social movements, than of NGO's coming together.
We had Vandana Shiva there as one of the keynote speakers. I think her work on the small farmers, and the understanding of the seed as a common, rather than a patented commodity ressonates with our discussions on the commons in a profound manner.
The Norwegian Social Forum also launched a campaign called, "Ta havet tilbake og jorda i bruk" "Reclaim the oceans, and put the soil in to use". The discussions about the fisheries is very much about the understanding of the oceans as a common. The commons is not such an articulated part of the agricultural part of the discussion,
I am also more than eager to hear more about the WSF of transformative economies, how this is connected with the general process of the WSF, and if we through connecting the Norwegian. the Finnish and the Transformative, could strengthen these processes by themselves and also the WSF process.
Thanks Ole for this feedback on the NSF... sounds like it was really awesome! We should definitely be in touch for the WSF of Transformative economies ... you should be receiving a news update soon (the organising team is finally in place in Barcelona and will start communicating more extensively). Cheers!