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e-Juice and vaping

CD Colin Davies Public Seen by 89

If we believe that combustion of tobacco likely to cause cancer causing carcinogens.
Then we must not consider e-Juice to be in the same category as no combustion is involved.
Whilst e-juice or e-liquid contain nicotine so do tomatoes, eggplant and a variety of medicinal products that are ingested.
Various political and financial forces are at work to regulate, legalise and even prohibit e-juice through the world today.
An ever increasing number of people are leaving tobacco smoking and switching to ejuice vaping.
The pressures being put on the current ejuice revolution are more financial then medical related.
Governments are losing tax revenues as there revenue is being slashed.
The large tobacco companies have now all bought into the new industry and are wanting to use regulations to remove smaller players.
All the while people like myself are experiencing health benefits from switching.
Can the IMP protect NZ vapers and assist the from returning to combustion of tobacco?

DU

Cohen Glass Mon 21 Jul 2014 5:30AM

yup- straight off the bat. Just went online and bought some- was meaning to do that :)

LW

Luke Williams Wed 23 Jul 2014 9:01AM

For those unfamiliar with the current situation. One can have e-juice, and give it away, but currently you can not sell it. Making it a lot more difficult to acquire than it should be.

I myself swapped to electronic cigarettes a few months back, not only have I saved a decent amount of money (went from about ~$80 a week to ~$200 for 3 months and counting) But I also feel significantly healthier than when I was smoking tobacco. Although there hasn't been much research on the long term affects of vaping, common sense says nicotine + vg/pg + flavor is a lot safer than nicotine + plant matter + ~4000 other chemicals.

Of course one could argue everyone should quit entirely, but I like nicotine, so... No.

DU

fuck you assholes Wed 23 Jul 2014 9:01AM

Anything to get people off cigarettes.

LW

Luke Williams Wed 23 Jul 2014 9:03AM

I should probably mention I am in full support of regulating ejuice so It can purchased/sold in NZ (importing from elsewhere is a pita).

CD

Colin Davies Thu 24 Jul 2014 12:29AM

@lukewilliams @cohenglass
I'm very suspect about imported ejuice, as I can find no standards for it. eg Does it contain x% nicotine how much pg & vg, what are the flavours made of. And also purity of all the contents. Then there is also the containers, are they reacting with any of the chemicals in storage.
So my thoughts are about having an industry self regulated standard, and the liberation of both manufacture and sales of e-juice within NZ.
Note: A calculation I did showed that the worldwide ejuice market is over 2 Billion pa, and growing fast.
Thus this could be a massive export opportunity as well for NZ.

CD

Poll Created Sun 27 Jul 2014 10:59PM

Ejuice liberation Closed Wed 30 Jul 2014 10:08PM

Set up a set of standards for e-juice production within NZ.
Allowing sales and exports.

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 88.9% 8 CD JB DU LW DU YB RK JB
Abstain 11.1% 1 RF
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 479 MS ABN AV T CE JA SR SM TK KG VC TF TSI P AP MB ISI AP MM SG

9 of 488 people have participated (1%)

YB

Yadran Bilish
Agree
Mon 28 Jul 2014 12:32AM

I agree, although i don't really care.

JB

Jo Booth
Agree
Mon 28 Jul 2014 12:44AM

Yes, standardise and regulate to some degree - should allay the fears, and allow the potential to be better explored without FUD

RF

Robert Frittmann
Abstain
Wed 30 Jul 2014 7:59AM

I'm a non-smoker and I don't know enough about this subject to contribute usefully, but I like to show that I have at least read this proposal. I try to not let a proposal expire without at least taking a look. On this one, I'll abstain.

JB

Jo Booth Mon 28 Jul 2014 12:47AM

Government revenue from Tobacco sales should be used to reduce the harm of tobacco stuff, not generally pooled - vaping has yet to show any significant health issues - so I'd say it doesn't need health issues funded through tax.

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