Loomio
Mon 27 Jan 2014 1:26PM

Anonymous decision

RJ Raphaël Jadot Public Seen by 157

This is a discussion about anonymous decision taking.

I know that in most groups and discussions there is no reason to hide identity, but I realize that sometimes, it may be interesting to be considered.

Imagine there is a loomio post where is asked: "do you agree this person to be inside our group?". Most people says "yes, triple yes, hurray!!" and you want to express the fact you don't care, you don't have opinion. However as you know that yes is winner, you don't want to appear as "mean", and then convert your "no opinion" by "agree".

Maybe worse, you don't dare express a "no" because of the fear to be badly considered.

Maybe it could be interesting to be able then to take decisions anonymously.

edit: I replaced the title "vote" by "decision" because I did not mean to make of loomio a tool for elevtion, but just wondered in if some cases there could be a way to let people express opinion anonymously (in case of relational pressure, for instance). Of course, it's not a vote because loomio is not a tool for voting. And I'm not talking about a complex system to avoid fraud, hide name even inside database etc. Just a simple process that hide names in some decisions.

RJ

Poll Created Mon 27 Jan 2014 1:35PM

It could be interesting to have a way to make anonymous discussion/decisions Closed Thu 30 Jan 2014 1:00PM

Outcome
by Raphaël Jadot Mon 27 Feb 2017 10:21PM

9 agreeing, 3 disagreeing 2 abstain and 1 block. I wonder how we can consider a block here, does it mean: "end of dicussion"? :)

I have no idea yet of how and if it's doable, but do you think that, by principle, it could be interesting?

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 60.0% 9 AI RDB BK QG FN BN A VM DU
Abstain 13.3% 2 TT AS
Disagree 20.0% 3 CT RBW JG
Block 6.7% 1 FGP
Undecided 0% 886 RG JV JL KC NW SW JC MB CWH BH DS RW MS RF AC HM C SZ DB CR

15 of 901 people have participated (1%)

BK

Benjamin Knight
Agree
Mon 27 Jan 2014 7:04PM

Definitely think it could be interesting! Would love to develop more flexible decision-making protocols once the core is solid

AI

Alanna Irving
Agree
Mon 27 Jan 2014 8:58PM

I think this is an important feature and we should do it. It will take some time to design well though.

VM

vivien maidaborn
Agree
Mon 27 Jan 2014 11:19PM

Yes I have been asked for this feature from people using Loomio. Mostly in organisations where managers voices can skew what other people really think. Agree it needs deep consideration abit further down the track

JG

John Graham
Disagree
Mon 27 Jan 2014 11:30PM

It's interesting, but I think anonymity would cut across some core values of consensus decision making.

I would prefer energy to go into designing other protocols or ways of overcoming a 'niceness/meanness' mindset, without resorting to anonymity.

JG

John Graham
Disagree
Mon 27 Jan 2014 11:31PM

It's interesting, but I think anonymity would cut across some core values of consensus decision making.
I would prefer energy to go into designing other protocols or ways of overcoming a 'niceness/meanness' mindset, without resorting to anonymity.

A

AlexSBayley
Agree
Tue 28 Jan 2014 4:06AM

I think it would be a good option to make available, but that I wouldn't want to use it as a matter of course.

CT

Chris Taklis
Disagree
Wed 29 Jan 2014 12:28PM

We must stop to afraid, what we voted and who...

BN

Brennan Novak
Agree
Wed 29 Jan 2014 1:28PM

YES, this seems like an absolutely crucial feature should Loomio ever start to be used for voting on serious (and perhaps polarized) issues whereby ones vote could put their job, family, life, reputation in jeopardy.

BN

Brennan Novak
Agree
Wed 29 Jan 2014 1:31PM

This seems like an absolutely crucial feature should Loomio be used for voting on serious (and perhaps polarized) issues whereby ones vote could put their job, family, life, or reputation in jeopardy.

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