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Thu 1 Oct 2015 11:01AM

Relationship to London festival website

AR Adam Russell Public Seen by 15

Update 6th Oct:

Yesterday, the London festival team (through our contact Shiri Shalmy at Open School East) stated "we would like to keep everything in one place rather than have a separate site for the Cornwall fringe. This way, I suppose, we make it clear that there is no centre v fringe and that all contributions to the AntiUni fest are equally important and interesting. This was the spirit if the original Antiuniversity and that's the point of the festival." Furthermore, they offered us full editing rights to their website and submission form. So there is good potential for us customising the main festival website to support a cornwall region filter or something.

We had a vote, and today resolved NOT to create a separate site, but to work with London on a unified festival website.

The site is hosted on cargocollective, which is mainly used for building artist's portfolios and which uses extensions on top of handlebars (itself an extension of mustache). No really, that is what these frameworks are called :) Full HTML/CSS access is available. The AntiUni site is currently using a Free account with 100Mb storage limit, 12 'projects' and 3 'pages'. Exactly what could be done with that remains to be seen (e.g. how the schedule will work)

We now just need to work out how to delegate/control access to the editing of this unified site.

Original context

The London festival website is now live (as of 1st Oct) and they have a deadline for submissions (18th Oct), registration form (for event providers), and online schedule TBA 2nd Nov.

There is no mention of the cornish fringe (yet) because we only confirmed this was happening a few days before their website went live. It is unclear whether they will ever acknowledge the cornish sub-identity as a specific thing on the main site. Perhaps that's fine, but we need to figure out if we want to ask them to change it? how to do that? or whether we just run our own parallel site? etc... e.g. do we follow their deadlines? Set our own different ones?

AR

Adam Russell Thu 1 Oct 2015 6:04PM

FYI have emailed our contact at OSE (curator Shiri Shalmy) about getting in direct contact with their web developer (at cargo collective I think?). Bcc'd @oscott and @edwinlove on the email.

AR

Adam Russell Fri 2 Oct 2015 3:31PM

We heard back from Shiri and it turns out she is their web dev (Cargo are just the host) and she's not very technical and is open to suggestions. We are seeing if she'll give us admin access to their site... I have just mailed her back, will update when we have info.

We might be able to customise their site to have a cornish 'filter' or page or something, and not have a separate site.

AR

Adam Russell Fri 2 Oct 2015 3:34PM

Was discussing the AntiUni Fringe plans at the pub last night with ISA people, and talking to one of the evening's speakers ethnobotanist Jane Acton from Redruth. Her view on the website was (paraphrasing) "I like the idea of having the Cornish events listed alongside London things, as it makes people in London aware of us and builds bridges".

DD

David Devanny Fri 2 Oct 2015 4:22PM

I'd agree with Jane's view +filtering option - definitely would be nice for events to be listed alongside and to very publicly have joined up with the London gang, although I definitely think the option to filter or link to a cornish specific programme would be very practically useful

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Adam Russell Mon 5 Oct 2015 6:05PM

Heard back from Shiri Shalmy today following my last email on Friday. Sounds to me like she wanted to have a chat with her collaborators at that end (there's only three of them including Shiri!) and they've said they'd like to keep it all on one site but are willing to allow us to develop/edit the content. Have updated the intro text for this discussion (see above) accordingly.

AR

Poll Created Mon 5 Oct 2015 6:23PM

Do NOT build a distinct website for the Cornwall festival Closed Tue 6 Oct 2015 7:08PM

Outcome
by Adam Russell Wed 26 Apr 2017 12:16PM

We resolved to work with London on a unified national website, instead of having our own separate online identity for the Cornish part of the festival. This means we look a lot less like a fringe fest now, and more like a local part of one (bigger) event.

See 'Update 5th Oct' in the discussion context above. The London team would rather we directed people to their website and did not build our own for Cornwall. Currently their site ( http://cargocollective.com/antiuniversity/ ) is fairly generic but they are willing to let us help them develop the site. Voting (24hrs) is as follows:

Agree - we just work with the main festival site
Disagree - we should have our own site!
Abstain - happy with whatever others feel
Block - rethink this decision process

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 66.7% 2 DD JF
Abstain 33.3% 1 AH
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 16 AG AR O EL MR NC DP SP FM M SS HM MB AB BA CR

3 of 19 people have participated (15%)

AH

andy harper
Abstain
Mon 5 Oct 2015 6:55PM

Cool with what everyone else thinks.

JF

Jerome Fletcher
Agree
Mon 5 Oct 2015 7:25PM

Happy to link to the main site for the time being.

DD

David Devanny
Agree
Tue 6 Oct 2015 7:28AM

Given that they're willing to let us contribute to development/format of site I think this is a bonus for both groups

O

Oliver Mon 5 Oct 2015 7:38PM

Go with cargo. Keep it aligned for the festival programme etc. If we need more, then we can compliment with a simple blog that's specific to Cornish needs or whatever feels appropriate?

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