Well I'm not sure we're at the proposal stage. I'd like to get input and feedback on the draft before asking anyone to approve anything. But I'll try one!

Could I get an invite please?

@rosendimov can you share your email. Until we figure out the auto-invite system, we need your email to invite you.

Here is Washington, DC, I have access to SEC regulators. I suggest we don't go public with the manifesto until we get some legal advice. Once I have a definite candidate to discuss this with, I will bring that meeting to a vote.

I think this is an extremely good point, Tom. Thank you. We definitely don't want to run afoul there. We'll definitely make sure to get the proper advice when we're harmonizing the legal structure with the public-facing rhetoric. There's definitely a danger of improperly advertising a security.

Nathan: Never used Slack. Do I need to start an account? Or can you authorize me to join the team?

I just sent a Slack invite to your email address.

Love the momentum here, great going. I like #WeAreTwitter - it seems to fit the tone better. I agree, we need to consider the international aspect of Twitter users. I could translate the final draft into French and German if that helps. Can you add me to slack too? hi.rebecca@gmail.com.

Just invited @rebeccagarnett and @arminsteuernagel1 to slack. Still trying to get the auto-invite tool working.

@ntnsndr overall love the manifesto draft but not sure this sentence adds any value:

" And if this doesn't pan out, don't worry; our cooperative is cooking up other plans for bringing democracy to the internet, whether the internet's profiteers like it or not."

Thanks, @josefdaviescoates. To me the value of that statement is to indicate that our efforts are beyond just Twitter. I think we need to indicate (basically to potential supporters) that we realize this is a longshot and we're developing a longer-term plan.

Do you have a suggestion for another way to convey this?

I think it was mostly the slightly confrontational tone of that sentence that didn't sit well with the bulk of the document that made it seem out of place.

You're a far more experienced wordsmith than I, but perhaps just mention something about the "platform asset-acquisition co-op" plans being cooked up?

Cool, that's helpful. Yeah, I'll try to tone down the ambiguous threat:)

perhaps just tweak this:

"One of the most hopeful things about this campaign, in my view, is that it’s a chance to flex our thinking and organizing around the ambitious idea of co-owning a major platform utility. Whatever becomes of Twitter, I hope we can work in a way so that we’re better equipped for this kind of possibility in the future."

As you wrote on the nice onboarding page you knocked up http://internetofownership.net/2016/10/04/a-guide-to-buytwitter/

How about this: "But Twitter is only the start; our cooperative is cooking up other plans for bringing democracy to the internet, too."

Okay! "But Twitter is only the start, a chance to flex our thinking and organizing around the ambitious idea of co-owning a major platform utility; our cooperative is cooking up other plans for bringing democracy to the internet, too."

I left a comment on the Slack page. Also:

"We the undersigned, some of whom are TWTR owners already, have opted to join ___ Cooperative and lead the transition. We hope etc."

Another comment: The Manifesto is directed to Twitter, Inc. and @timothyamcdonald has suggested posting it at various websites.

I'm not familiar with Medium or IoO, but the transition from a manifesto to Twitter to asking users to sign up should be less confusing. Perhaps just a simple link with a call to action at a different document. I'm sure you web folks can ace this. Be ready to handle 500,000 sign-ups.

On the options: a simple support statement with collection of contact info (and # of shares) will speed up this first stage. A proper contract will require time & legal expenses.

Definitely better imho. The "bringing democracy to the internet" stuff never really done it for me, but I'm just a pedant so can always find something so probably best ignored half the time :P

Totally, @coopchange. I was intending that kind of checkbox. Making it more explicit now.

@josefdaviescoates from what I gather #wearetwitter has only been used publicly once, though we have been using it internally for a few days.

Only used once?!? there are loads of #WeAreTwitter tweets (which is what you link to yourself, so I'm really confused as to how/why you only see one tweet there when there a loads?!? - do you mean only been used once in this specific context? I guess you must)

I looked at both WeAreTwitter and BuyTwitter on hashtagify and WeAreTwitter scores higher on popularity of use, see http://hashtagify.me/hashtag/wearetwitter and http://hashtagify.me/hashtag/buytwitter

Joining late here... #BuyTwitter is catchier but somehow doesn't convey the democratic aspect of this. But I'm having trouble coming up with something that does... #WeAreTwitter is closer, but seems ambiguous. Also, @ntnsndr -- can I get a Slack invite? tom@ladendorf.com

Why don't we use what's known and morph it as it grows.... (I have to say that deciding on names or memes is one of the hardest group decisions - i've sat through many Loomio discussions on this subject ) - the better way is to choose the least offensive option. For me it's the one that's already known. #wearetwitter is great too so it can be an addition.

#Twitterco-op 'reads' as 'twitter coop' IE a place for birds!

I like both #BuyTwitter and #WeAreTwitter. Once we've bought it we really are Twitter. Like the thought ful comments

As @sophiejerram said, naming discussions can be a huge energy sink. They are the biggest bike shed conversations for a lot of Loomio groups. I'd warn against spending too much time on this. Seems like the top two hashtags can both be used, and then if this thing gets enough traction we can have a 'proper' branding workshop or messaging working group down the line.

In order to get this done we need help in the department of PR & media outreach. Notably (but not limited to) tech and business media for starters. Preferably we'd have a diverse set of people for the media outreach. Established relationships would be superb obv.

If you have a background in comms and/or can suggest people who qualify: please join the #communications channel on Slack! :) #spreadtheword

@timothyamcdonald the Thunderclap is a good idea. Want to start organizing that in #communications on Slack? I'm happy to join.

just to mention, most of the thunderclaps I've been involved with or have run didn't really work too well :-/

I''m pretty sure that in at least one case, when I was trying to raise awareness about an event I was organising, that the amount of time and effort it took signing people up to the thunderclap would've been much better spent just spreading the about the event and pointing people directly to the ticket page rather than to the thunderclap which then sent people to the ticket page.

And, after finally signing everyone up (this was when thunderclaps were still all or nothing, which it seems they mostly aren't anymore) and the thunderclap went out there was no discernible uptake in tickets sales at all :-/

Although I also note Loomio did one in the past, so perhaps @alanna could share her experiences about that if she knows anything about it?

Also, if we are going to do one, probably best to go pro so we actually able to export all the supporters email addresses (and so be able to contact them again), but that costs $650 and I'm not sure who would want to splash out that amount at this stage?

We had an OK experience with Thunderclap, but as you said our direct outreach was way more effective (and media coverage). So I'd advise not focusing much energy on a Thunderclap but instead just get people to share the link directly. Most important thing is to be very clear about which link we want everyone to share, and help people out with some pre-written tweets and facebook posts to use.

I second @josefdaviescoates' comments on Thunderclap - they tend to be ineffective when used in isolation, without a path to and through it. For example, I was moved by Shaun King's op-ed's about a nation-wide boycott, and promptly signed up and posted about it (https://www.facebook.com/danbann/posts/10157581009695217). I was even more moved by the Movement for Black Lives pledge http://action.movementforblacklives.org/pledge which I'm sure many of you have seen, too.

Is there anyone who can translate the Manifesto to:
Spanish
German
Chinese
etc.?

I can work on German with @thomaseuler1 - just need a GO on Slack when we have a final version.

Can anyone do a Spanish version?

Can someone point me to the final english edit of the manifesto? :)

https://buytwitter.slack.com/files/ntnsndr/F2LU3S8P5/_WeAreTwitter

First German version: https://buytwitter.slack.com/files/johnnyhaeusler/F2PR8FWTB/Manifesto__German_version_

Needs tweaking and polishing, but it works. Will work on it again tomorrow if no-one else jumps in. I'll also do the bits at the end.

As a side note: In Germany, Thunderclap is – in my experience – not a thing at all. Don't know about other European countries.

I'd be grateful if you'd ping in Slack, as well, to help us remember :)