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Thu 14 Jul 2016 2:06PM

Welcome to Occupy Wall Street

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Please take a moment to introduce yourself: post a comment in the form below.

We want to know what you see as the future of the volunteer effort known as Occupy Wall Street

OWS

Poll Created Thu 14 Jul 2016 2:54PM

What Should Occupy Do Next? Closed Sun 17 Jul 2016 2:03PM

The admins of the occupy social media pages previously amplified the messaging of Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) because his vision for getting money out of politics and returning power to the people aligned with many of the foundational principles of Occupy Wall Street. Now that the the political revolution he spoke about, by endorsing Hillary Clinton, is effectively over, we are challenged as to next steps. What do you propose that we do to push forward?

Knowing that this is not an either/or question, do you think we should we continue to engage with electorial politics on these pages?

We are all trying to figure this out.

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
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Undecided 0% 44 IJ CS TC PG T V K OWS EE MV T BT CS WV MD DD PJR RO SB BS

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Eman Eizenga Thu 14 Jul 2016 3:34PM

Hello! I am Pat and I am helping on Jill Stein's presidential campaign and we've been actively asking Bernie supporters to please consider us as a Plan B. Now, with Bernie's endorsement of Hillary Clinton, there must be a way to be able to vote for your values. Jill Stein (and ALL Green candidates) don't accept corporate funds, support #BlackLivesMatter, #FightFor15, #MovetoAmend, and #AbolishStudentDebt. Her platform mirrors Bernie in so many ways, except in certain cases such as foreign policy, debt abolishment, and more, she's even MORE progressive. Jill Stein is the natural logical choice after the co-opting of Bernie's campaign by Hillary Clinton. Reject the Wall Street candidate, and be a part of the Greater Good, in Jill's campaign (and for Greens up and down the ballot everywhere).

PG

Priscilla Grim Fri 15 Jul 2016 2:20PM

Actually, I think our job is to push forward with our movements to elevate political engagement above (not instead of) the electoral process.

MD

Meka Diggs Thu 14 Jul 2016 3:36PM

I would suggest that before we jump up and condemn or bail on the senator, we at least wait to see how things play out at the convention. Bernie Sanders has not suspended his campaign nor has he conceded the race. #SeeYouInPhilly
(if HRC becomes nominee, I'll throw my support behind Stein.)

CS

Clay Shirky Thu 14 Jul 2016 4:03PM

I worry about Sanders' weak support among African-American voters. In a year when the broad electorate would have voted for a Socialist President, he couldn't win the Democratic nomination, largely because of African-American preference for his opponent, which ranged from significant (Missouri, Illinois) to overwhelming (South Carolina, Alabama.)

For all that Sanders was the more progressive candidate, Clinton had (and has) the more diverse coalition. I think Occupy should work to help change that.

FP

Fred Pierre Thu 14 Jul 2016 4:38PM

Leaders like Jill Stein are fine, but the real answers come from the community. How do we build community? Cooperative food, solar and housing organizations can pool community resources into a treasure chest for a sustainable future. Non-profit, democratic corporations = 1 vote per shareholder = people power on a national scale to end hunger, housing and healthcare discrimination. We can and will make people power work!

DL

Devin Lord Thu 14 Jul 2016 4:43PM

Keep making space for conversation and dissent; including #blacklivesmatter, trans activists, immigrants, climate justice activists; including Jill Stein and other reformers active in electoral politics; amp all those voices not being heard. Electoral politics is bigger than elections and activism shapes the context of elections. Short of formal endorsements, there may not be a clear line of "engaging with electoral politics" when it comes to amping political speech.

AK

ANNE KILEY Thu 14 Jul 2016 5:45PM

Hi --

We should align with the Green Party and help elect Jill Stein.

TC

Thierry Castro Thu 14 Jul 2016 6:13PM

I believe in democracy, and voting is part of that process. Still, I would engage in electoral politics (as they currently exist) on an exception and case-by-case basis. Surprisingly (and for the first time in my adult lifetime) there are not one but two (!) candidates for US President that are worth the effort to support (IMO): Bernie Sanders and Jill Stein.

SLK

Steven Lawrence Kostis Thu 14 Jul 2016 8:51PM

Turn the DOJ against the FBI and Bush Jr. for war crimes.

PJR

Peter Jay Reilly Fri 15 Jul 2016 2:15AM

First of all, I think this format is great for OWS... so let's dialog. The Sanders campaign spent $222 million, and one year of organizing efforts. The results is that the "political revolution" only got the democratic platform to move somewhat to the left on some pretty basic issues. But when it came to imperialism, and exploitation, the essence of America, the dems wouldn't budge. In comparison, OWS and BLM have pushed society to the left by using people power, direct action, reasoning, and logic. Electoral politics are toxic. If you want to vote, go vote (and then hold your vote accountable), but I think we should use our organizing time more effectively. In the time it takes me to vote, I can go to my neighborhood park and pick up litter. I think that would be more proactive for the revolution.

PJR

Peter Jay Reilly Sat 16 Jul 2016 2:36PM

I have a question for Occupy Wall St. about this comment: "Though electoral politics is one of the lowest bars of engagement politically, I think that it is important, but I am eager to hear what others have to say." If you accept that, then why has OWS spent so much time invested in the Sanders campaign in the last year? I and many others became disenfranchised when OWS started to do this. An OWS moderator blocked me on facebook for criticizing Sanders. Over the last year, electoral politics pulled OWS to the right. I still remember: "What is our one demand?" Sanders is not apart of that. I didn't see him in the streets with us.

AG

Alan Greenhome Sat 16 Jul 2016 3:34PM

Support Bernie until he concedes, with our help he can win with our revolution. Vote with feet on the Streets.

After that, there is another strategy born at OWS. Based on this reality "Big multinational corporations continue to buy our government because we continue to buy their unsustainable products." At a meeting of Think Tank we came up with an idea of using sustainable products to protect the planet and move the center of political balance back to the people. That is how AParallelWorld.com was born.