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Thu 14 Feb 2019 4:07AM

Share issue in LBPL and related considerations.

DC Dean Cameron Public Seen by 135

Now we have ruled a line under the old google ownership tracking spreadsheet. i have tidied it up and removed extraneous stuff and sheets for people who are not likely to be members. Please check over the sheet as there are some important changes to bring it in line with what we have agreed to as a group . in particular the 40-hour membership contribution, the $50 membership fee (deducted off contributions) the claiming of a proportion of rent representing the amount of AUD capital that has been paid down to 30 Jan 19. I have spent hours this morning reconciling the Bank statements with payments received into the account and checking over expenses claimed. i think all is in order. Sun had missed a few payments for equipment and repairs so i have included these. - please all check over for a final time as tomorrow is the cut off date for any changed. the sheet will be locked as a PDF record of the past tomorrow and this will be the basis for issuing shares in LBPL. before the shares can be issued you will all have to agree to the LBPL constitution I'm going to attach here. share transfer date will be early April. Unless we get advice from our accountant otherwise, One share will be issued for each $100 in calculated equity so there should not be any real issues with Transfer duty. I think its only an issue for capital gains when shares are sold not for issuing them.

DC

Dean Cameron Fri 15 Feb 2019 5:43AM

Ok thanks for alerting me, i wil try moving it into the same folder

DC

Dean Cameron Fri 15 Feb 2019 5:53AM

it already was in the same folder which you have access too so not sure why you had a problem check the link above and give me feedback

DC

Dean Cameron Fri 15 Feb 2019 5:58AM

just checked and it was your old gmail address so that sorts that out i think
I have shared the ELF drive with your new email now

DC

Poll Created Sun 17 Feb 2019 11:02PM

That furniture, tools and equipment people have claimed expenses for in the ownership tracking sheet be removed from the register and individuals who paid for them keep them or dispose of them as they see fit. Closed Sun 24 Feb 2019 10:02PM

Outcome
by Dean Cameron Mon 25 Feb 2019 12:36AM

this proposal has passed. Please act on it now. There is an ever tightening deadline to the ELF wind up & sale that has been agreed. your cooperation would be greatly appreciated as once again I'm the one who it seems is left with all the work and I'm getting increasingly pissed off at the lack of good will and cooperation.

I have reopened the ownership tracking spreadsheet for another week so that everyone can have a chance to remove items they purchased and claimed as ELF expenses. I have already removed all of the tools I bought or contributed from my equity claim. They will be of no value to ELF once the property sells and i don't think we want to have to auction them off. Fixtures such as the container which we won't move have been left. Basically, anything you contributed that will not be sold with the property must be removed from your equity expenses claims.

Any personal property which is stored on the property must be removed before the end of this month as first impressions make an impact on the real estate agents valuation report. The caravan, the old ute body, logs, timber, All the personal stuff stored in the shed and workshop and anything that any of us owns that detracts from the look of the property must be removed in the next 10 day. Please don't leave this to the last minute. I'm sure we are all smarting from the large losses we each will suffer from having to wind up at a time when all the effort and investment we have put in is not going to add much if any value to the sale price. True integrity will shine through if people pitch in and cooperate respectfully and on this final project that we all know none of us is going to be paid for, but our effort may increase the amount we get for the property. I am personally devastated that it has come to this for ELF. We set up in a way that could have lasted indefinitely. We have known since Kim loaned us the finance that he wanted it repaid before his pension eligibility was compromised. 4 to 5 years max were his initial terms. Sadly we haven't been able to get it together to refinance and no one has been found to buy out the debt so here we are.

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 100.0% 3 DC RW MK
Abstain 0.0% 0  
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 5 T P NH S

3 of 8 people have participated (37%)

DC

Dean Cameron
Agree
Sun 17 Feb 2019 11:16PM

Already removed all of the equity contribution claims for all tools & equipment. Ute, NHLS150, and Excavator running costs have been left in but no value claimed for the acquisition. there is some grey area around the rock-breaker which Tom Sun & Sam all contributed to I believe. Im assuming you have no use for it. I suggest an equity adjustment on that so that i take the cost of it off my equity claim (even though i didn't pay any of it) and you all leave your claims in for it.

MK

Monique Kurdian
Agree
Mon 18 Feb 2019 8:40AM

I think that this topic should be sent as a personalised email copied in to each ELF resident because it seems people aren't reading or responding to their loomio notifications. 10 days may be a tight deadline for some members and there is a lot of gear to go. And just reiterating here, if I can't vote on something I give Dean Cameron my proxy vote from now on.

DC

Dean Cameron Sun 17 Feb 2019 11:18PM

Already removed all of the equity contribution claims for all tools & equipment. Ute, NHLS150, and Excavator running costs have been left in but no value claimed for the acquisition. there is some grey area around the rock-breaker which Tom Sun & Sam all contributed to I believe. Im assuming you have no use for it. I suggest an equity adjustment on that so that i take the cost of it off my equity claim (even though i didn't pay any of it) and you all leave your claims in for it.

MK

Monique Kurdian Mon 18 Feb 2019 8:37AM

From here on in I will be giving Dean Cameron my proxy vote.

DC

Poll Created Thu 7 Mar 2019 9:55PM

That Capital Share issue in LBPL be deferred until after refinance applications are accepted or rejected Closed Thu 14 Mar 2019 9:03PM

There are some equity adjustment dependencies on success or failure of LBPL refinance application. If ELF remains on foot then the tools and equipment that have been taken out of all of the equity calculations will need to go back into the calculation. If the property is sold then they should remain out. until we have exhausted all attempts to keep ELF alive as a viable entity we need to defer conversion of spreadsheet calculations into Capital Shares.

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 100.0% 3 DC RW S
Abstain 0.0% 0  
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 5 T P C MK NH

3 of 8 people have participated (37%)

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