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Thu 14 Dec 2023 5:03PM

Clarity on stance with regards to Threads

AS Arnold Schrijver Public Seen by 122

This summer we had huge discussions and multiple votes on how to deal with Meta's Threads. Then a lull as things calmed down, with little to report on Thread's plans. Now, all that is back with full force with Mark Zuckerberg pronouncing his optimism for ActivityPub support, and read-only support being launched. As far as I am aware the prior discussions and votes did not lead to clarity on the approach to be taken. If there's any time to make decisions in this regard, then it is now.

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Sam Whited Sat 16 Dec 2023 1:47PM

I double checked and we did not have a rule in place. I took the liberty of applying the limit since we hadn't done that yet (though of course if anyone feels like I've overstepped, please let me know, it's easily reversible). We currently have 3 accounts on threads.net stored on the server with a total of 25 followers across them (most of which are for the instagram founder guy). These accounts will not be affected by the limit, and searching for accounts won't be affected, but posts from threads will no longer show up in the federated timeline (limit really doesn't do much).

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Dynamic Sat 16 Dec 2023 6:57PM

@Sam Whited

Thanks. I can't imagine this was overstepping, given that it's what the current policy says should happen.

AS

Arnold Schrijver Sat 16 Dec 2023 7:04PM

@Sam Whited @Dynamic Note that @Erik Moeller's toot is also doing the rounds on the fedi now, and boosted already 281 times: https://social.coop/@eloquence/111588877096843391

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Erik Moeller Sat 16 Dec 2023 8:44PM

@Sam Whited

What do you mean when you say "these accounts won't be affected by the limit"? Here's what I see if I try to follow Mosseri on social.coop now:

I'm assuming this means that any posts of his that get boosted also won't show up in my timeline until I follow him. If that's not the actual behavior, that would be great to know!

SW

Sam Whited Sat 16 Dec 2023 11:57PM

@Erik Moeller oh yah, I forgot about the warning. You can still show the profile and follow it though. I'm not sure how boosts are handled and I blocked the domain on my account so I can't test it. I could unblock it for a bit and then re-block it if someone wants to check.

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Erik Moeller Sun 17 Dec 2023 12:15AM

@Sam Whited Yeah, that's the big difference to suspending. I'm around for the next hour or so, ping me on fedi if you want to do a quick boost test :-)

EM

Erik Moeller Sat 23 Dec 2023 6:51AM

@Sam Whited I just saw a post from a Threads user I didn't follow, boosted into my home timeline by another user I followed. So a server-side "Limit" definitely does not stop that.

There's a bug for this, though it's not clear yet if the Mastodon folks themselves see it as a bug: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/26301

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Dynamic Thu 28 Dec 2023 1:40PM

@Erik Moeller

Thanks for sharing this. Not happy to hear it.

ES

Ed Summers @edsu Thu 21 Dec 2023 12:59PM

This seems like an interesting development: https://mastodon.social/@dansup/111617703110836835

SW

Sam Whited Thu 21 Dec 2023 2:52PM

I'd really like to see us turn on authorized fetch if we haven't already (especially in light of threads); I wonder if anyone on the tech team could weigh in on whether the extra authentication load for us would cause any problems? I suspect it would be fine, but they'd have a better view into how close to capacity the system is running than I would.

EDIT: See also this thread about authorized_fetch where discussion should probably happen: https://www.loomio.com/d/Ry5oCGg4/enable-authorized_fetch

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