DiasporaHQ account - move to a project pod?
Jason Robinson
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We touched this issue (again, I know it has been up before) on IRC some time ago, happened to agree with @steffenvanbergerem that the project really needs its own pod. The largest reason for this being that posts from the DiasporaHQ account just do not federate out of joindiaspora except randomly. From the last 4 posts, I've received two. I've checked diasp.eu and diaspora-fr.org and neither had received the post either. It's just not something we can live with since we cannot debug problems on joindiaspora.com.
So, what is the current level of support (previous discussions have been rejected I remember) for pushing up a pod.diasporafoundation.org pod OR maybe if jhass wants to give it, diaspora.social .. It would not be an open pod, but would have accounts like HQ and Team.
To be honest, not a huge fan of diasporafoundation.org domain any more since it doesn't look like we're about to set up a legal organization any time soon :( Maybe we could discuss even adopting diaspora.social if @jhass would be ok with that - then we could have [email protected] and [email protected] and [email protected] - for example.
Anyway, just to kick of discussion about this again - feel very frustrated on the uselessness of the DHQ account right now.
Migration or loss of followers was mentioned last time as a blocker. I don't see it that way - most of the followers never receive the messages now anyway so it's kind of an academic question ;) Once joindiaspora.com updates to 0.5 (Maxwell wants to do it soon, talked with him), we can export the contacts and do a one time "mass follow" on the new pod, and then do a "mass unfollow". This will create a notification to any others who could then hit follow back if they want.
And I'm totally willing to host the pod and pay for it, if lack of volunteers for that is brought up as a problem.
Jason Robinson Tue 12 May 2015 4:10PM
Oh, that is neat :) pod.diaspora.software <3. Then we could redirect diasporafoundation.org to diaspora.software.
Flaburgan Tue 12 May 2015 5:40PM
I don't think we should abandon diasporafoundation.org, but this is going out of topic.
About a new pod for diaspora HQ well yeah, why not.
About joindiaspora.com managed by other people, I think that I once read Maxwell saying that if someone wants to help him, he is welcome. That way, the pod would still be owned by Max (and, I guess, paid by him) but maybe administrate more often.
goob Tue 12 May 2015 5:51PM
not a huge fan of diasporafoundation.org domain any more since it doesn’t look like we’re about to set up a legal organization any time soon
We have a legal organisation (through FSSN) - we're just not using it. I think the project can certainly make use of the structure they provide until such time as the project sets up its own legal structure.
I think that I once read Maxwell saying that if someone wants to help him, he is welcome.
Jason kindly offered a year or so ago, and I'm pretty sure Maxwell said yes, but then the trail went cold. Jason, did you ever hear back from him?
Dennis Schubert Tue 12 May 2015 6:18PM
Just remember to don't move away from diasporafoundation.org until June, since we've got a valid wildcard certificate for this domain ;)
Jason Robinson Thu 14 May 2015 10:40AM
I think the project can certainly make use of the structure they provide until such time as the project sets up its own legal structure.
When will that be? :) When one tries to talk about it everybody goes silent..
I don't know for sure if moving DiasporaHQ is a good idea or not, but I know using it is useless as long as joindiaspora.com is broken. It's easier to reach diaspora* users by posting to the Diaspora page on Facebook or the account on Twitter than through DiasporaHQ ;)
aj Thu 14 May 2015 2:44PM
seems like JD is no longer the place for it so i agree.
Flaburgan Thu 14 May 2015 4:43PM
@jasonrobinson maybe we can wait to see if you success to fix joindiaspora? Like, to clean old accounts and old pods... I personally think that there are also limitations inside diaspora* itself, an account with 300.000 contacts will be broken on any diaspora* pod..
Juan Santiago Thu 14 May 2015 7:24PM
@flaburgan
"an account with 300.000 contacts will be broken on any diaspora* pod.."
Also on a pod of only one account?
In that case, we should make a chain?
A Diasporahq acount has a limited number of users, and in athers pods, acounts disporahq1, disporahq2, disoprahq3, also with limited number of followers, and so on?
It may not be very complicated to implement.
Flaburgan Thu 14 May 2015 9:59PM
@juansantiago well, we should more certainly optimize diaspora*: diaspora HQ is sending only public post, so only one post is sent to a pod, so this should definitely not take that much power. But we're going out of topic here, we know we need to improve diaspora core.
Jonne Haß · Tue 12 May 2015 4:07PM
I also have diaspora.software btw