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mix irving PublicSeen by 70At the moment, if there is a phrase missing in a language, Loomio 'falls-back' to English.
We've just recently developed function to set other preferred fall-backs.
e.g. We could set up a fallback chain like this :
Català --> Español --> English
if a phrase is missing from Català , Loomio will use the Español phrase, and if that is missing then it will use the English phrase
What we want to know is :
If your language were to have a fall-back language, what would you like it to be?
For Esperanto the only other option than English that would make sense is to have a fallback language selected by the users themselves.
Hey @joopkieftelapingvi , thanks, that's good to know. We can't support this at the moment, so unless you want to name a closer language, we'll leave it to default to English
The example you gave, by the way, is for example what Microsoft uses.
In Portuguese-Brazil case, even though Spanish structure being much closer than English structure, many words in Spanish when looks similar have a complete different meaning (e.g.: pregnant in Spanish is embarazada, and in Portuguese this word is pretty close to embaraçada, which means tangled). On the other hand, Brazilians are much more used to English than Spanish due to the imperialism, ops, neologisms through movies, software products, brands and so on (e.g.: online, website, e-mail, rock and roll are the same in Portuguese, and other words as delete and scanning recently came to be deletar and escanear). Laugh allowed.
So, for Portuguese speakers, when there is a translation missing, the ‘falls-back’ should be kept to English.
By the way, certainly for Portuguese-Portugal it would be better ‘falls-back’ to Portuguese-Brazil.
For German there is no need to have another fallback language than English.
I've stated the best fallback options for my lanugage
proposal by mix irving Closed Wed 17 Sep 2014 2:08AM
For those who have just arrived, please read the discussion context panel, then post an 'agree' with:
- what your language is
- what the best 'fallback' is for your language.
Please ask questions and discuss if anything is unclear.
Results
| Results | Option | Votes | % of votes cast | % of eligible voters | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Agree | 7 | 78 | 3 |     | |
| Abstain | 2 | 22 | 1 |  | |
| Disagree | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| Block | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| Not voted | 200 | 96 |               |
no need for another fallback language.
German: English
German -> English
Esperanto -> English for now, user setting when/if ever possible
Spanish: English
Arabic -> English
For Basque, Spanish (or French) would be much better than English. More than 87% of active Basque speakers are bilingual in Spanish, whereas the knowledge of English is much, much smaller. The remaining ones are bilingual or fluent French speakers
This solution would be a bit risky for Polish. There is no enough working knowledge of one specific language to make a choice.
For Arabic as well, there is no need for another fallback language other than English.
There is no such language for Polish. The closest (the most common) would still be English, although the working knowledge of English in Poland may vary amongst the users.
language: French ; fallback: English
I'm aware the above example might be controversial, but this is part of what we would like to understand.
We want to make sure we support communities with the languages they are most comfortable with.