Preliminary bylaws approval process
This is a thread for finalizing the initial bylaws for Social.coop.
Do we approve of these bylaws?
proposal by Nathan Schneider Closed Fri 11 Aug 2017 3:12AM
WE HAVE BYLAWS! Congratulations, all. This is a big step forward. Now time for working groups to get going on policies.
The Governance / Legal Working Group has just approved an initial bylaws document, and we are now bringing it to the full group to approve. If we approve it (according to the standards the bylaws themselves recommend in the last section, I think we can consider it approved:
- At least 10 days allowed for members to weigh in
- Agreement by at least 75% of voting members
- No blocks, unless 95% agreement is reached
View the bylaws draft here.
Keep in mind that these are the work of considerable effort from the working group, so please respect their/our effort that went into this. Nevertheless, if you see glaring need for changes, now is a good time to say so, and we can re-propose an amended version if necessary.
We're very much looking forward to grounding this cooperative in some worthy bylaws!
Results
| Results | Option | Votes | % of votes cast | % of eligible voters | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Agree | 6 | 100 | 29 | ||
| Abstain | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| Disagree | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| Block | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| Not voted | 15 | 71 |
Simple, describe and slightly formalize a current set of processes. Good place to start.
Very concise and straight to the point, I like every bit of this.
@williammurphy it's a bit of chicken-and-egg. But I don't think we can approve of policies without bylaws as a basis for doing so. Once we have these bylaws in place, we can get to work on spelling out the more detailed policies.
Now that we have bylaws, @mayel, is there a way we can post them to the website? What's the best way to host static content?
@ntnsndr I would very much like to move forward and work on policies, but I noticed that we got a 20% turnout on the bylaws approval proposal, whereas the bylaws say we need 75% of voting members to agree. Do we need a larger percentage of members to vote "Agree" to approve the bylaws?
@tobiasdammluhr We discussed turnout when drafting the bylaws but figured that requiring any minimum turnout might just freeze us to a standstill, that's why it is worded as "voting members", meaning only members who actually weight in on a proposal are counted (note that this does include people who explicitly "Abstain")
I went ahead and put them on a dedicated page: https://social.coop/bylaws and also updated the homepage and 'more about' page with links to it. Maybe would be a good idea to update the homepage copy with some of the phrasings from the bylaws.
@mayel Thank you for clarifying and posting the bylaws!
Voila @ntnsndr : https://social.coop/terms
This is the standard Mastodon 'terms of service' page, if we want to use this URL for the code of conduct once we have it, we can move the bylaws to a similar static page.
@mayel is it easy to replace the "mastodon" logo above the bylaws (and other static pages) with our logo and the name "social.coop"? Otherwise it seems like these are bylaws for mastodon itself.
I'm currently working on a few versions of the "three pines" logo, I'll share them as soon as I'm back from my "away from civilization" weekend :)
good point! I'll wait for the logo from @michelekipiel and do that.
Michele, I will need one that includes social.coop as white text to replace https://social.coop/packs/logo_full-9782239008b0105fd451ff43db5f716e.svg
Hello,
here's a link to a series of variations on the "three pines" logo, with varying degrees of abstraction: https://www.dropbox.com/s/u8e1mif3a84oe5e/logo.svg?dl=0
Feel free to send feedback and propose ideas :)
I was going to contribute a sketch of my own logo idea but it's basically just the first one of yours!
I like the bottom right a lot!
I played with it a bit, putting it on a dark background, and also based on this symbolism thought two pines might be better: http://www.co-soap.com/cooperation
what do you think?
@michelekipiel @mayel if this conversation continues, let's start a separate thread.
I would go for either two pines (to make clear the co-op connection) or three pines (to combine the co-op movement with the mastodon logo).
I love these! Great work!
Should we do a "dot vote" on our favorite options?
Thank you! I'll add a few more variations, give each a number and start the vote ASAP
I updated the file with a "three pine" variation of the logo @mayel proposed, check it out and let me know! :)
Is there a proposal made about this? I'm not sure where to see it.
I posted the link to the svg file a few comments back. Here it is for your convenience: https://www.dropbox.com/s/u8e1mif3a84oe5e/logo.svg?dl=0
Ooh, I love the far-right one on the second-to-last row. Hits a great balance between mastodon and co-op. Can we start an approval process? Or just start using it?
Glad you like them :)
Since a logo is something we all should identify with, I'd say let's vote and keep things democratic at all levels.
OT: I will be on holiday for the next 14 days with very limited access to the internet (I'll be touring Iceland) so feel free to hold the vote and pick the icon you like best without me!
Okay, I'll start a thread
Three questions:
1. how are working groups created?
2. Shouldn't "at least 50%" should be "more than 50%"? Or is this not about a majority?
3. What does this mean? "No blocks, unless 90% agreement is reached"
Did you get a reply on this? Unclear on the blocks reference as well.
I did not see a reply to this, but I have been busy and traveling this week.
I like what you have created for the foundational rules, but these bylaws make reference to other policies which I don't see included.
It is difficult to make a decision without knowing what is in the other policies. I know some are in development (e.g. code of conduct). So, if the situation is that we cannot make these policies until we have a process for doing so (i.e. these bylaws), would it be reasonable to make it explicit in this version which policies are pending and define the expectation to add them to the bylaws?