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Sun 27 Jun 2021 1:12PM

Ditching GAFAM

OS Oli SB Public Seen by 191

What would it take for us to get away from the 'death star platforms' of GAFAM and grow a cooperative commons infrastructure...?

OS

Poll Created Sun 27 Jun 2021 1:32PM

Which of the following reasons is most likely to convince you to move away from Gmail etc? The alternative service should: Closed Sun 4 Jul 2021 1:04PM

Results

Results Option Rank % of points Points Mean
Never sell your data to anyone else 1 10.3% 270 11.3
Be powered by open source software 2 8.5% 222 9.7
Be governed as a co-operative 3 8.1% 213 9.3
Be easy to set up on your phone and computer 4 7.2% 189 7.6
Be as, or more secure than the “free” options 5 7.1% 187 8.1
Allow you to cancel, and export your data, at any time 6 7.0% 185 7.4
Be available on all devices 7 6.7% 176 7.3
Be powered by renewable energy 8 6.6% 172 8.6
Use any profit to help grow the commons 9 5.8% 153 6.4
Never expose you to advertising 10 5.5% 145 8.5
Have great product support 11 4.6% 120 5.5
Have an uptime guarantee 12 4.6% 120 5.5
Provide Single Sign On (SSO) access to file storage and other collaborative tools 13 4.6% 120 5.7
Be expandable - so you can upgrade your storage 14 3.7% 98 4.7
Provide a suite comprising calendar plus office tools 15 3.3% 87 6.2
Provide collaborative tools such as mind-mapping, whiteboard, etc. 16 3.2% 83 5.9
Work seemlessly with Gmail etc (e.g. sending/accepting calendar invites) 17 0.9% 24 12.0
Provide a robust migration mechanism from Gmail etc 18 0.5% 14 7.0
Search Feature 19 0.5% 14 14.0
As cheap as Gmail so all can use it. 20 0.5% 13 13.0
Large scale reliable operation with own data center and Internet backbone 21 0.5% 13 13.0
Be built as Native Apps 22 0.3% 7 7.0
Utilize SOLID from Tim-Berners Lee 23 0.0% 0 0
Undecided 0% 0 0

25 of 235 people have participated (10%)

OS

Poll Created Sun 27 Jun 2021 1:46PM

If the Open service also connected to other collaborative tools, which of the following would you use? Closed Wed 30 Jun 2021 1:03PM

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Shared docs - for collaboration on Spreadsheets and Word Processing files 12.8% 21 WO GJ G MSC SG BS VG J B AP JW D R GR D DF MW RB S CH
File storage - for docs and photos etc 12.2% 20 WO GJ G MSC SG BS VG B AP JW D R D DF MW RB S DU CH JD
Audio and video calls 11.0% 18 WO G MSC SG VG J B AP JW D M R GR D DF MW S DU
Collaborative tools for graphing, mind-/concept-mapping, whiteboarding, etc. 11.0% 18 WO GJ G MSC SG BS J B JW M R D DF MW RB S DU CH
Meeting scheduling tools 9.1% 15 WO GJ G MSC SG BS J JW D M R DF MW S JD
Todo lists - private or shared Kanban-style task boards 8.5% 14 WO G MSC SG BS J B AP JW D R DF S DU
Calendars - create and share multiple calendars 7.9% 13 WO G SG AP JW D R DF MW RB S CH JD
Text chat - in groups or one-to-one 7.9% 13 WO G SG J AP JW D M R DF MW S CH
Contacts - sync your contacts with phones and other devices 6.7% 11 WO G SG B JW D R MW S CH JD
Ad hoc polls 6.7% 11 WO G JW M R JG DF MW S DU JD
Ad hoc payment/measurement/acknowledement recording framework 3.7% 6 WO G JW R MW S
Accessibility 2.4% 4 BS R MW DU
Undecided 0% 211 DS EM TK AG JD DW BH DDB AD PA JN J JE JA JL C CCC ML WH PB

24 of 235 people have participated (10%)

OS

Poll Created Sun 27 Jun 2021 1:51PM

How much would you be prepared to pay for 5GB of storage for emails and 10GB of storage for files? Closed Sun 4 Jul 2021 1:04PM

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
£3/month 40.0% 4 SG VG J GR
£5/month 30.0% 3 WO G BS
€1/month 20.0% 2 D M
£4/month 10.0% 1 JD
Undecided 0% 1 OS

10 of 11 people have participated (90%)

OS

Poll Created Sun 27 Jun 2021 1:53PM

How much would you be prepared to pay for 5GB of storage for emails and 20GB of storage for files? Closed Sun 4 Jul 2021 1:04PM

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
£5/month 40.0% 2 BS VG
£7/month 40.0% 2 WO JD
£6/month 20.0% 1 SG
£8/month 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 1 OS

5 of 6 people have participated (83%)

OS

Poll Created Sun 27 Jun 2021 1:54PM

How much would you be prepared to pay for 5GB of storage for emails and 30GB of storage for files? Closed Sun 4 Jul 2021 1:04PM

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
£10/month 100.0% 3 WO SG VG
£11/month 0.0% 0  
£12/month 0.0% 0  
£13/month 0.0% 0  
£14/month 0.0% 0  
£15/month 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 1 OS

3 of 4 people have participated (75%)

ML

Michael Linton Sun 27 Jun 2021 1:41PM

 
10 - Provide Single Sign On (SSO) access to file storage and other collaborative tools
 
11 - Use any profit to help grow the commons
 
12 - Be expandable - so you can upgrade your storage
 
13 - Have an uptime guarantee
 
14 - Have great product support
 
15 - Be easy to set up on your phone and computer
 
16 - Be available on all devices
 
17 - Be governed as a co-operative
 
18 - Allow you to cancel, and export your data, at any time
 
19 - Be as, or more secure than the “free” options
 
20 - Be powered by open source software
 
21 - Be powered by renewable energy
 
22 - Never expose you to advertising
 
23 - Never sell your data to anyone else

Subscription / financed by cooperative currencies? Pay it round?

OS

Poll Created Sun 27 Jun 2021 1:57PM

If you were to sign up which size of account do you think you would start at? Closed Sun 4 Jul 2021 1:04PM

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
5GM email + 10GB files storage 71.4% 5 WO BS VG J JD
5GM email + 30GB files storage 28.6% 2 SG GR
5GM email + 20GB files storage 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 1 OS

7 of 8 people have participated (87%)

OS

Poll Created Sun 27 Jun 2021 1:59PM

How important do you think it is for an Open email service to connect to file storage and other collaborative tools? Closed Sun 4 Jul 2021 1:04PM

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Important 44.4% 4 WO SG VG JD
Unsure 22.2% 2 BS J
Very important - I wouldn’t sign up without those 22.2% 2 M GR
Not that important 11.1% 1 G
Not important at all - I would never use those 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 1 OS

9 of 10 people have participated (90%)

OS

Poll Created Sun 27 Jun 2021 2:01PM

Would you be interested in paying for an estimation of your technological carbon footprint to be offset as an additional feature? Closed Sun 4 Jul 2021 2:03PM

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Yes 37.5% 3 G BS D
Maybe - depends on the price 37.5% 3 SG VG JD
No 25.0% 2 J M
Undecided 0% 1 OS

8 of 9 people have participated (88%)

JW

John Waters Sun 27 Jun 2021 1:41PM

 
10 - Be as, or more secure than the “free” options
 
11 - Be powered by renewable energy
 
12 - Provide Single Sign On (SSO) access to file storage and other collaborative tools
 
13 - Be powered by open source software
 
14 - Provide collaborative tools such as mind-mapping, whiteboard, etc.
 
15 - Provide a suite comprising calendar plus office tools
 
16 - Allow you to cancel, and export your data, at any time
 
17 - Never sell your data to anyone else
 
18 - Use any profit to help grow the commons
 
19 - Be expandable - so you can upgrade your storage
 
20 - Have an uptime guarantee
 
21 - Have great product support
 
22 - Be easy to set up on your phone and computer
 
23 - Be available on all devices

"Never sell your data to anyone else" is ambiguous. Anonymized aggregated data may, if used appropriately, help in the effective design of policy, whereas identifying data enables the targetting of advertising (and worse) turning the user into the product.

What does "Gmail etc" actually mean?

The meaning of "available on all devices" is unclear. A Web service will be available on any device with a browser.

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