Fri 11 Aug 2017 6:21AM

A Journalistic integrity policy

TH Tane Harre Public Seen by 104

As I try to research and reference news I find it progressively harder to find links that still work the further back in time I go.

I suggest that to be able to post something as news in New Zealand, a copy (and separate copies of all updates, should have to be held by the government in a publicly (perhaps after a week?) searchable database.

News organisations absolutely have the right to reconfigure their sites. The problem is link rot.

For example at the moment I am looking at the past articles on Thompson and Clark and (for instance) 10 out of the 15 news articles listed on Source Watch no longer exist.

Not having a backup of the articles not only allows New Zealand history to disappear, but also encourages a rewrite of history in the future.


Jo Booth Fri 11 Aug 2017 9:06AM

For years a society I'm part of of has deposited its magazine with the national library - and looking at their archives there some 27 million other newspaper articles including online publications archived. Maybe we need to encourage and support this kind of preservation of our culture but also our "history". Archives NZ do it for government sources and so why shouldn't a public archive of journalistic articles be preserved independently...


Colin Smith Fri 11 Aug 2017 9:16AM

If I recall correctly Tane, you and I were talking about this during the last election. (Iris Café)


Suzie Dawson Fri 11 Aug 2017 12:05PM

@taneharre this practice is not accidental but deliberate.

When I source NZ MSM articles re spying / dodgy govt behaviour in my articles, the links are broken within days of publication. NZ Herald is a serial offender. So is TVNZ. They deliberately move the story links.

Another practice I have come across is news articles being posted after the fact and backdated. Both of these should be completely illegal.

The solution isn't the govt but the archives. You will note when WL share information they will share an archive.org copy of the page. Journalistic best practice is now to source all links in an article as archive.org versions rather than the original source links, to prevent this kind of meddling.


Miriam Mallinder Fri 11 Aug 2017 5:55PM

yes but the meddling happens, so how do we stop it? and can you always find the original versions?


ben cooney Fri 18 Aug 2017 3:12AM

The 4th estate is dead..... This is a travesty.... When we were young nz had the reputation as having the most free and critical media on the planet. Sadly as part as the drive towards a neo liberal infotainment wasteland we have seen this destroyed... I feel thst we must fight for journalistic integrity... We deserve this and we must have it again.... A free and critical media is the foundation of a thriving democracy


ben cooney Fri 18 Aug 2017 5:27AM

Thank you! Wow there are some heavy hitters on that panel... I wish i could go! Dammit


idiom axiom Mon 21 Aug 2017 8:09AM

MSM journalists are having their livelihoods undecut by the internet. Let them die.

Twitter and Youtube are taking their revenue. Its why the WSJ went after PewDiePie and the Nazi meme exists.

Only the MSM can keep you safe from the big bad Nazis on the internet!!!



IP Jo Booth Tue 22 Aug 2017 4:49AM

Interestingly, National Library have requested an archive of our campaign....

The National Library of New Zealand collects copies of New Zealand websites which are preserved for their current interest, historical and research value. Every election year we capture political party and candidate sites across the political spectrum, which are archived in the National Digital Heritage Archive, and form part of the New Zealand General Election Web Collection. These have traditionally been websites that we have copied using the National Library’s web harvester. We have noticed the increasing use of social media in political campaigns and we want to reflect this change in our collections.

This election year, under legal deposit legislation, we are requesting a copy of your public Twitter account https://twitter.com/InternetPartyNZ. We are unable to harvest the site using our in-house web harvester for technical reasons. However Twitter allows you to download a copy of your Twitter account as a zipped file and we would like you to do this once the elections are over and send us a copy.

For information about Legal deposit see http://natlib.govt.nz/legaldeposit

Please do not hesitate to contact me, if you have any questions.


Johnny Canuck Tue 26 Sep 2017 12:59PM

5th Estate, NEW Media, World Alternative Media, FANN (Fringe Alternative News Network) https://www.minds.com/groups/profile/673027543741243396/activity

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