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Wed 14 May 2014 5:10PM

Payments

KL Kate Lebedeff Public Seen by 216

The Association does not pay for services, and everybody here contributes within his/her free time. This is the general rule. At the same time there will be some exceptions, and it is these on which we must have a common vision.

When should the association pay for services?

  • When the service provided is necessary for association legal or operational reasons and there is no volunteer with the ability or professional qualification to undertake the task.
  • When the service involves an important responsibility, such as presence and actions within/at certain times, which must be guaranteed (and where people contributing only their free time are unable to meet).
  • When existing contributors do not have the necessary breadth of knowledge, experience or skills (for example legal or accounting service)
  • When the service required is of major importance to the distribution.

Other expenses

The Association via the council are responsible for making best possible choices for the disbursement of funds donated by our sponsors, maecenas and donators, and for maintaining the value and availability of the assets (the OMA distribution) entrusted to them (the Council) on behalf of the community. This responsibility includes making the best possible use of the assets available and ensuring the greatest benefit from the available financial resources for the distribution and the community.

Furthermore, the Association, through the Council, pledge to use part of the money to facilitate, encourage and maintain the participation of members to the association purpose, to keep solidarity, commitment and good atmosphere at a high level. This by means which will be determined over time and depending on circumstancies, in respect of 1901 Non Profit Association spirit and French Law.

KL

Poll Created Wed 14 May 2014 5:10PM

Do you agree on payments policy? Closed Sat 17 May 2014 6:06PM

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 72.7% 8 RJ J KL BR AK VR CC DS
Abstain 27.3% 3 WS AB R
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 2 TPG AV

11 of 13 people have participated (84%)

RJ

Raphaël Jadot
Disagree
Wed 14 May 2014 7:46PM

I just disagree for the reason told in comment, if this part is fixed I'll change to agreement :)

AB

Anurag Bhandari
Abstain
Thu 15 May 2014 1:29AM

I hold similar a opinion on gifts and rewards as does Raphael. For that reason, I abstain.

RJ

Raphaël Jadot
Agree
Thu 15 May 2014 9:36PM

Change opinion to agree

J

jclvanier
Agree
Fri 16 May 2014 7:38AM

I agree with the new formulation (I had the same reserves/doubts as Raphël and Anurag).

CC

Colin Close
Agree
Fri 16 May 2014 9:04AM

New wording maintains the spirit of what was intended

WS

Wayne Sallee
Abstain
Fri 16 May 2014 9:55PM

Because this poll as well as the other poll were pushed before giving time for proper discussion, I'm going to abstain on this vote.

Wayne Sallee
[email protected]

RJ

Raphaël Jadot Wed 14 May 2014 7:40PM

I agree mostly all except:

Awards and Prizes.
The Association via the council may in some circumstances make special awards to individuals who in the councils judgement have made a major contribution to the improvement of the distribution.
This policy is by way of encouraging those that contribute at a continuously high level.

Because it's not doable

I would also replace

donated by our sponsors

by

donated by our sponsors, maecenas and donators.

KL

Kate Lebedeff Thu 15 May 2014 3:42PM

Sure we can replace as you suggest the text. Regarding "not doable" - I am not sure I understand what you mean? @raphaeljadot

RJ

Raphaël Jadot Thu 15 May 2014 3:51PM

@katelebedeff it's the legal reason I gave in mailing list, we can give money or hardware only in these conditions:
- wage (to avoid to salary people without protection)
- bill of professional worker or company
- Prizes in the case of a contest, if rules are validated by bailiff
- or very small gift under 60€/person/year

Council Judgement only is not legally sufficient reason, for a NPO, to give money to someone, and doing so could bring serious troubles... At least in France, I don't know for other countries...

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