Should we accept funding for this project?
Should we accept funding at the start of the project? On one hand it would make things a lot easier, on the other it might make things too easy, if we did it by ourselves without any help it would give a greater sense of accomplishment and might be more inspiring to people, look they started it with a tiny budget no budget.
Thomas A. Anderson Thu 22 Aug 2013 11:44AM
what about if we did the effort to get the funding to come in. like fund raisers where we provide perks for donation amounts, the way kickstarter and indiegogo works?
If we made the perks for the fundraiser then technically we would be generating the funds ourselves and might even have a solid base to start projects at the site to generate more money later if needed say for buying more land. funding other communities, stuff like that?
Blaine Smith Thu 22 Aug 2013 11:43PM
That's a good idea, the perks could be things like getting a free visit or staying a few nights at the community, so that it further promotes it.
Thomas A. Anderson Fri 23 Aug 2013 11:09AM
well until we have the place that would be something we would have to hold off on, but continued funding could be arranged that way for sure.
for now I was thinking we need to build our skill sets and add anything we can to them, while doing this we could be making stuff to put into a pool of "perks" that can then be auctioned off, placed in a fundraiser like KS or Indiegogo, and given away for donation amounts. and know that we are working toward our goal :)
Jammie Gregory Sat 24 Aug 2013 11:46AM
"Funding... it could only help, right?"-Blaine
The problem that I see is later on down the road, if we succeed wildly and create a better way for people to live together on a small scale, then make a documentary about it and a guide book, which could produce far more profit than funding, and seek funding later....but if we accept funding right from the start and keep taking donations, then what are we proving to others? How compelling is the documentary going to be if people are left wondering whether or not it really works better since they got all that money for free to build this or that?
Ashley cathers Sat 24 Aug 2013 12:23PM
I dont think we can really do much of anything without any funds. this is something a group of us have been working toward for the last 15 years, but funding has been a problem. I can see the well what will people think of us if we accept money argument. But if you focus so much on what people think... you'll fail. Besides actual land tho, there isnt a lot we would even need funding for. Im sure everyone has something to bring to the table.
Poll Created Wed 28 Aug 2013 1:18AM
Yes we should accept any funding possible at any time Closed Thu 5 Sep 2013 9:06AM
Voting yes for this means, it could be much easier to start and grow, but that it may be more difficult to prove later on that living in such a community has a greatly positive impact on people's lives, if they got a large amount of funding from other sources, and also this may be discouraging to others who want to start up a community like this but can't get funding.
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4 of 18 people have voted (22%)
Wed 28 Aug 2013 3:43AM
I'm not sure. If do make a loan for at least the first part, we can pay it off quickly and then use that community as a base to build other one's making it easier for others to start, so they don't need a loan. But I think it could be done without.
Wed 28 Aug 2013 10:18AM
I am in disagreement with loans, but should the group need that direction as a last resort.
Rodney Greenmoon Haitana
Wed 4 Sep 2013 3:11PM
I think this idea has promise but being a blueprint it still needs finer tuning to then see if it's a viable proposal
Xich Quy Wed 28 Aug 2013 4:47PM
Maybe we should exploit the system (bleed it) however we can. Take out a huge loan with no intention on paying it back. Let's look at our options at least. Crowd sourcing doesn't sound like a bad idea especially when (and I am assuming here) anyone can come and live with us - it'll be like a time-share.
Blaine Smith Mon 2 Sep 2013 1:48AM
We still haven't really come to a conclusion yet, I was expecting more input, to maybe alter the balance, but I guess that might be too much to expect. So I'll add something else to the equation. I was thinking about how loans are kind of like what we are going for. A RBE is like having the ability to take out any sized loan and never need to pay it back, except obviously it bypasses the money part all together so we deal directly with the resources. So really if we were to take out a loan with no intention of paying it off would be just like how we intend to live. I mean it's not like money is real any way, it's just a figment of our collective imagination. So any resulting trouble in the monetary system would in effect be beneficial towards us. Granted it might give a bit of a negative light on us in the eyes of some of the public, but negative interest is better than no interest, Right? Kind of like a new age Robin Hood.
Rodney Greenmoon Haitana Wed 4 Sep 2013 3:06PM
Yes I tend to agree with Ashley...but being from Australia I am really in the dark as to American goverment rules and regulations are concerned.
but I will try to have some input to the best I can to help this group progress forward...good work team
Blessings from Aussie
Xich Quy Wed 4 Sep 2013 4:59PM
Let's just agree we will exploit any means necessary. It's not about the image, it's about what will we accomplish when we apply technology intelligently. Besides, the game is so rigged, you need to cheat to get ahead.
Blaine Smith · Fri 16 Aug 2013 9:06PM
As long as the funding doesn't come with restrictions or ties to a company or government I see no reason why we couldn't try, it could only help, right?