to know that, we need to determine how many pirates we have, and then decide a quorum.

That is a good question. Do you think a lack of 'nay' is too high a thresh hold?

Yeah... too high. Anyways, a person disagreeing is always free to attend a PNC or state meeting to represent their opinions.

Well, the proposals are right there. There's always a clear record of who agrees, who disagrees, etc. So! How about we just publish the results for anyone (whether state party, PNC, disgruntled fork of PNC, etc.) to take into consideration? "Dear world: 75% of us recommend this policy. Take that for what you will. Love, Pirate Underground."

Well, The original intent on the Pirate Underground was to provide recommendations to the PNC (and otherwise lobby the PNC on policy that the Underground approves of)..
Though just giving them the numbers might work. Though its transparent anyways, so the PNC can look at it whether we send it or not.

I agree with Zac. It is practical and fluid.

I guess that could work.. I still think we should be recommending something though.

Well, the vote to the left gives a percentage of who voted what.. so I dunno. Maybe?

Lindsay, an easy trick to remembering what is left and right is making a right angle with your thumb and pointer finger on both hands then holding them up. The one that looks like an L is the left. The other is the side with the voting chart.

Nick, you know what I meant -.-

/grumble

just in case it was unclear, my suggestion for requiring a quorum to ratify major policies for the pnc was within the context of suggestions to compile into a summary outline to be linked to #pnc at the next general assembly.

We should obviously have a Quorum to Ratify. BUT this looks like it requires 100% Quorum, which could be hard to reach. Perhaps this could be fixed by doing the voting online over, say, a weeks time? In which case we would need to coordinate with all the states to get emails for members... which could lengthen the process as they make necessary changes (or ask permission) to allow them to pass on emails to the PNC.

Considering PNC is biweekly, it may be doable. 100% Quorum is an extremely high rate, but I'm sure pestering everyone to vote a few times over the week would do.

Lindsay...
It says "all registered pirate party members"

Uhm.. I thought he meant the ones on Loomio.

In that case, there's no way that's going to happen. One state didn't keep track of their membership at all, and at last check had ~160 people. What of those who aren't registered Pirate because the state doesn't recognize Pirate as a party/designation?

fair enough.

To elaborate: working groups can write documents expressing beliefs, support for policies, etc. They can go on a website, where people can upvote them or downvote them. Above a certain threshold, a platform point gets put on the "front page" of that particular topic.

Like, let's say we have a page about what the Pirate Party thinks of copyright. The abolitionist caucus writes its brief, and all the abolitionists +1 that. Then the reformists all -1 that, and write their dissenting brief. So both opinions go up there, marked as having a 70%/30% split, or whatever it turns out to be. And then one guy comes in and writes a kooky post about copyright maximalism, and everyone downvotes it and nobody agrees with it, and it stays buried.

Back to the original intent of this thread...
Anyone have ideas for an approval percentage to officially "Recommend" a Proposal in the Pirate Underground? Im still thinking individuals who disagree with the outcome can simply go to the PNC meetings to make sure their voice is heard. And if not, the PNC can always look here to see why people disagreed on proposals anyways. Of course, its up to the people of the Underground.

sounds fine with me.