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Proposed Audit Rules and REQUIRED votes

RC Ryan Carrier Public Seen by 154

Here we will vote on new rules for Independent Audit of AI Systems when a new rule is passed, we will have a new version update. ForHumanity Fellows are strongly encouraged to vote on all proposals and to seek out information to have an informed vote. New votes will be launched no more than TWICE per month on the 1st and 3rd weekend of each month and will be open for one week. It is recommended to all Fellows to treat these votes as "required". Comments are welcome and encourage to clarify, propose changes, or to support the vote.

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Paul Lashmet Mon 22 Mar 2021 1:24PM

I think we need action something first, learn and expand.

CR

Charles Radclyffe Mon 22 Mar 2021 1:17PM

while child protection is likely to tug all our heart strings, have we thought about expanding this to cover all those who don't have legal capacity? For instance... I'm dealing with increasing levels of responsibility for my parents, and i could imagine the BigTech reflex might be that outsourcing this to AI is a lucrative business model (and a dangerous one)...

PL

Paul Lashmet Mon 22 Mar 2021 11:44AM

QUESTION: If "Child" = "Child who cannot consent" aren't we defining a word with the same word? I agree with replacing "Minor" with "Child" since it is less variable per jurisdiction, but my question is for the actual "child" definition. "CHILD(ren) = individual under the age of 13" is more definitive.

- Paul

MG

Marianna Ganapini Mon 22 Mar 2021 6:46AM

As with the other one, I'd vote yes.

Thanks
Marianna

CC

Chris Culnane Sun 21 Mar 2021 6:01PM

No and here is why

I agree with changing minor to child, as that becomes consistent with the UNCRC. I'm not convinced by the term CWCC and I think it needs to be jurisdictionally bound. The GDPR sets a default of 16, but member states can lower it as far as 13, I think that variation needs to be captured. An alternative could be Child Below the Age of Consent (CBAC): child who has not reached the age of consent for data processing in the jurisdiction of their residence (16 where not defined).

TT

Tristi Tanaka Sun 21 Mar 2021 6:01PM

Yes

Please consider "12 years and under". If not, please ping me with why not. Would be great if all definitions regarding age focused on the ages inclusive rather than the number excluded. I appreciate these types of definitions come from people much smarter than me...

JH

Jacquie Hughes Sun 21 Mar 2021 6:01PM

No and here is why

I am uncomfortable with the term ‘child who can’t consent. Partly because it suggests a myriad of posdible reasons Why they may not be capable of consent,including capacity, and also it doesn’t really have a definition that is recognised in any type of legal or regulatory framework.

GW

Gisele Waters Sun 21 Mar 2021 6:01PM

Yes

Given almost 1/3 of the world's population is under 16 years old; I'm happy to read the cautionary progress that FH is reflecting on the dev of this definition. https://5rightsfoundation.com/our-work/childrens-rights/uncrc-general-comment.html

PT

Peter Tilley Sun 21 Mar 2021 6:01PM

Yes

Where might informed consent fit into this definition?

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Paul Lashmet Sun 21 Mar 2021 6:01PM

No and here is why

I agree with "Minor" = "Child". I don't agree with "Child"="Child Who Cannot Consent" because "Child"="Child" is not a definition. We should keep "Child" = "individual under the age of 13" because it is a definition.

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