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Social Coop is a company that claims to have acquired three Mastodon servers???

Richard HullRichard Hull Wed 21 Dec 2022 6:26PMPublicSeen by 238
Richard Hull

Richard HullWed 21 Dec 2022 7:50PM

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Thomas Beckett

Thomas BeckettWed 21 Dec 2022 6:51PM

Maybe we should file a trademark application. Are we formally incorporated or still just an opencollective instance?

Sven Shipton

Sven ShiptonWed 21 Dec 2022 6:56PM

We are not. We have a fiscal sponsor but are otherwise an unincorporated association. I believe we should register as a cooperative society with the FCA. Happy to help with the efforts on this, though possibly the details should be handled by the legal working group or something?

Sven Shipton

Sven ShiptonWed 21 Dec 2022 6:59PM

Regarding a trademark application: where do we file it? Unlike copyright, trademarks aren't universal, and it would get pretty expensive to protect the name everywhere.

I do agree with this in principle though.

jonny

jonnyWed 21 Dec 2022 7:00PM

dang foiled by the fact that there's no way I'm putting my credit card into this webzone to look up more info

Josef Davies-Coates

Josef Davies-CoatesThu 22 Dec 2022 12:08AM

I use throw away virtual one time card details for such things. I use Revolut app https://www.revolut.com/ , but there are other options out there too. Indeed, I think even Open Collective offer virtual cards for some collectives (I think at present just the collectives they host), powered by privacy.com last I read about it (but I think planning to connect with other providers too).

Jamie Gaehring

Jamie GaehringWed 21 Dec 2022 7:16PM

I think getting a trademark is a good idea, and I'd even suggest a trusted member could do it so sooner rather then later under their own name, then transfer it to a proper legal entity once we've cobbled one together.

To @Sven Shipton's point, I think it's probably wise to at least cover a couple jurisdictions where we have a sizable number of users, or hope to have users. The main risk, imo, is they stand-up a Mastodon server that is similar enough to social.coop that it confuses users who think they're joining our instance, whether that's intentional or not. If those users are in a location we have TM, it seems like it would lower that particular risk, but (obligatory) I am not a lawyer.

Sadly, I've known others in the FOSS community who've been forced to deal w/ TM issues. This is one resource I've found helpful in the past:

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/likelihood-confusion-how-do-you-determine-trademark-infringing.html

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Nathan Schneider

Nathan SchneiderWed 21 Dec 2022 11:36PM

I know the folks behind Social Coop and they have agreed to stop using the name. (Also in this thread is a record that I have discussed Social.coop with them in the past.)

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