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Wed 1 Jun 2022 7:40AM

Covid Safe Plan- for review and feedback

JE Jason Emmins Public Seen by 64

A draft COVID Safe Plan was developed to assist some members in a recent tender application. This document was developed as a draft and "good enough for now" document to submit with the tender. It would be great for you to review this document and provide comment by the 13/06/22 so any feedback or changes can be made before taking it back to the Risk Jedi as a final document then registered with the Documents Jedi. To access the document- please click here- Jeder Institute COVIDsafe Plan.docx

We are being requested more often to provide this document as "evidence" of our COVID Safe Strategies to ensure we have appropriate COVID Safe practices/processes. Some examples of where this has been asked is to access/visit Schools, Aged Care Facilities and for tenders (especially Government tenders).

It is proposed this document will eventually be stored in the Risk Jedi (Covid19- Corona Virus Documents and Updates). It will also be distributed via email as an "All Jeder" email communication.

Just a friendly reminder that it is your responsibility to ensure you have the appropriate PPE and resources available to you, depending on the environment you are visiting (for example- when I visit a Correctional Centre or Youth Justice Facility- I am still required to conduct a RAT test before entry, provide proof/evidence of my vaccination status and wear full PPE including gowns, face mask, face shield and gloves). You can obtain PPE as a reimbursement from your class or you can contact me (preferably via email) as I have a supply available.

KH

Kaeleen Hunter Wed 1 Jun 2022 7:56AM

more great work team jeder & thanks jason for sharing..........I was recently asked in the CoS space if I (we) have a plan by a SIL provider and do think this ticks that box.

Bit of format war going on but other than that reads well.

ALSO didnt know that Jeder are required to ensure all members are compliant to relevant state mandates - did I get that right? - thanks for the info.

JE

Jason Emmins Wed 1 Jun 2022 8:54AM

Thanks Kaeleen- I can see there is a bit of formatting wars happening- on the final document it will all be ok (as we will provide it in PDF). I think its going to be asked for more and more often.

Yes, we need to make sure all members do comply with relevant mandates (and laws etc for that fact).

KH

Kaeleen Hunter Sun 5 Jun 2022 2:51AM

hey Jason - how do we know all members are compliant and what is the implications if they arent?? I have been begun negotiating with a participant in Alice Springs - which state does my compliance sit under?? I think I would be great to at least establish her plan and as I will be in Alice soon and have some good connections I may hand over - just a thought because I am thinking I wouldn't be the only one with interstate participants??

MK

Michaela Kennedy Sun 5 Jun 2022 10:15AM

Please be careful on what you say is law, legal, reportable. I think the definition of the mandates as being legal is still up for debate. To date we have not found evidence around the mandates being legal but happy to see some evidence.

MK

Michaela Kennedy Sun 5 Jun 2022 10:15AM

Good question

JE

Jason Emmins Sun 5 Jun 2022 8:13PM

@Michaela Kennedy There is evidence around the mandates being legal- there have been court (both state and High Courts) that have heard these specific arguments and found them to be legal. If there is any reliable information you other others have that refute this I would be happy to see it (this has been asked but never provided). I am not sure what the intention of your question is here but it is not something for this thread.

JE

Jason Emmins Sun 5 Jun 2022 8:19PM

Thanks @Kaeleen Hunter- it would be relevant state where you are conducting business (in your case it would be the NT).

You do ask some good questions though.

As an organisation, we are required to ensure we follow all relevant legislation (either Local, State or Federal). This is part of our Registration with the NDIS (and other contractual obligations- generally linked to funding contracts).

At the moment, we are aware there are members who do not meet the mandate requirements and at this stage they are not conducting any face to face appointments (this has been confirmed in writing). If there are circumstances where we (as in individuals) are aware this is not happening, we need to be aware so we can review it and talk about appropriate ways forward. Based on the information to date, there is a risk that if people are not following the requirements we could face a fine (and subsequent implications for break the law including possible deregistration with our current registrations). I would be happy to be contacted with any specifics if anyone is aware of situations where this is not happening. Maybe we can also develop a Poll to determine what, as an organisation, we would do in these circumstances (i.e. is the individual member responsible or is the organisation responsible)?

MK

Michaela Kennedy Sun 5 Jun 2022 9:03PM

Thanks Jason, I would like to see that evidence. Maybe we start another Jedlet, validity of the mandate. Please check the privacy act as it refers to requesting information about people’s health status.

MK

Michaela Kennedy Sun 5 Jun 2022 9:39PM

I do not agree with the approach of telling Jason if you are aware of someone not complying with the mandate. This is a hierarchal approach and causes division in the organisation. Where was this discussed and decided on as an approach?

I agree conversations about the mandates need to happen and what is Jeder’s organisational approach. As far as I’m aware the lawyers report is in and is being considered at the Risk Jedi. I think it would be good to let the membership know what discussions are happening where as we do in the Mandate WorkAround, posted here on Loomio after each meeting. Anyone is welcome to join if you align with the purpose.

JE

Jason Emmins Mon 6 Jun 2022 1:00PM

Thanks @Michaela Kennedy. In terms of raising the concerns if people are not following or complying with something, this was only a suggestion as a point of contact for members. It can also be raised as a complaint and any one of the members can do this- within existing frameworks.

I can certainly raise it again at the Risk Jedi and would encourage any member to join this Jedi- the more the merrier. I will also discuss with the Bored as its a significant risk to Jeder if we are made aware of any of these situations and do not act upon them. I know it may not be entirely the same, but I liken it someone being charged with a serious criminal offence- we should be made aware of this as it has serious implications for us as an organisation. To me, the premise and level of seriousness is the same.

I feel we are going down a rabbit warren that is not for this thread- this thread is about the COVIDsafe Plan.

MK

Michaela Kennedy Wed 8 Jun 2022 6:38AM

Agree, this is going down a rabbit warren, look forward to further discussions elsewhere, cheers

LZ

Lisa Zulfiqar Thu 2 Jun 2022 12:54AM

Jason thanks for this, i have made a comment around the copy of the plan

Y

Yvonne Thu 2 Jun 2022 2:24AM

Thanks Jason, for all the hard yakka re this.!! Read OK for now, and no doubt will/ may change again.

JE

Jason Emmins Sat 4 Jun 2022 4:26AM

Hopefully change for the better- for everyone :-)

DU

[deactivated account] Mon 6 Jun 2022 12:06AM

Thank you for your work on this @Jason Emmins its good enough for now. 👍

MD

Michelle Dunscombe Mon 6 Jun 2022 8:21AM

Thanks @Jason Emmins I've added some comments in the document.

JE

Jason Emmins Wed 15 Jun 2022 1:10PM

Hi Everyone,

Thanks for all the feedback and comments. The document was updated today at the Risk Jedi and will now be sent to the Docs Jedi for processing/publishing. If you would like a copy of the COVIDSafe Plan- please use this link 2022 06 15 Jeder Institute COVIDsafe Plan.pdf.

An All Jeder Email will also be sent out with this information in it.

As usual, if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to post them here.

JE

Poll Created Sat 3 Dec 2022 1:17AM

Who would be interested in joining a discussion to review out COVIDsafe PLan (please see thread for link to document) Closed Mon 12 Dec 2022 6:01AM

Outcome
by Jason Emmins Tue 13 Dec 2022 9:43PM

Thanks for the responses. Looks like Mic, Marg, Vic, Kaeleen, Harley and I will review the Covid Safe Plan and send to membership for comment/review. I will send an invite to those members whom accepted for a meeting early 2023.

Following updates to each states COVID 19 Mandates/Public Health Orders, it may be time to ensure we are covering our obligations under Work Health Safety regarding COVID 19 Risks.

Looking for interested people in joining this discussion/review.

Results

Results Option Voters
Accept 5 MK MH VT KH HA
Decline 8 MD DB LZ LL AB JAC EW RD
Undecided 55 JE Y R CJ RP AB C AJ VL T LB FDP KH RH JIS MC FM LG FP ST

13 of 68 people have voted (19%)

VT

Vic Tyler
Accept
Sat 3 Dec 2022 1:17AM

Happy to join in.

KH

Kaeleen Hunter
Accept
Sat 3 Dec 2022 1:17AM

good news and yep willing to keep informed :-)

DB

Dee Brooks
Decline
Sat 3 Dec 2022 1:17AM

No particular reason - will see results as needed - thanks to those participating!

MK

Michaela Kennedy
Accept
Sat 3 Dec 2022 1:17AM

Happy to join

LZ

Lisa Zulfiqar
Decline
Sat 3 Dec 2022 1:17AM

Sorry unable to join this chat

HA

Harley Ames Sun 11 Dec 2022 8:59AM

Sounds fun, happy to join

JE

Jason Emmins Mon 16 Jan 2023 12:14AM

Ok- with the Festive Season over, I am going to put a poll out to bring together this Covid Safety Plan update.

JE

Poll Created Mon 16 Jan 2023 12:18AM

COVID Safety Plan Update Closed Wed 18 Jan 2023 5:02AM

@Margaret Henville @Harley Ames @Michaela Kennedy @Vic Tyler @Kaeleen Hunter - looking for a time to meet to update the COVID Safety Plan

Results

UTC Votes KH LZ TA Y MB
Wed 18 Jan 2023 10:00PM
1
 
 
 
 
 
Sun 22 Jan 2023 10:00PM
3
 
 
 
 
 
Tue 24 Jan 2023  1:00AM
2
 
 
 
 
 

5 of 58 people have voted (8%)

KH

Kaeleen Hunter Mon 16 Jan 2023 12:18AM

Wed 18 Jan 2023 10:00PM
Sun 22 Jan 2023 10:00PM
Tue 24 Jan 2023 1:00AM

I start work @ 9..........girls gotta walk you know

Y

Yvonne Mon 16 Jan 2023 12:19AM

Wed 18 Jan 2023 10:00PM
Sun 22 Jan 2023 10:00PM
Tue 24 Jan 2023 1:00AM

I'm so sorry I can't do 9.00am, just yet I'm still on holiday mode...lol...

MH

Margaret Henville Wed 18 Jan 2023 10:48AM

Hi All, Sorry I missed this. I can't see where to vote but I can do Monday 23rd @ 9.00am

MK

Michaela Kennedy Fri 20 Jan 2023 12:48AM

Sorry I missed this closing date, 2 days to respond is very short notice for me. I would still like to attend, please invite me, I will make it work.

MH

Margaret Henville Sun 22 Jan 2023 10:00PM

Hi Folks, if there is a meeting now could someone send me the link please? If the meeting is tomorrow at 12.00, I can make it but may have random interruptions. Cheers

JE

Jason Emmins Sun 22 Jan 2023 10:25PM

No- I will be scheduling this for tomorrow. Sorry I am little behind.

MH

Margaret Henville Sun 22 Jan 2023 10:31PM

All good Jason. Just what works for you

JE

Jason Emmins Sun 22 Jan 2023 10:58PM

Hi Everyone,

First- my apologies- I got a little behind with this one. I will propose to hold two meetings, one tomorrow at midday and one later in the week- possibly Friday.

Cherish has done a little more research for us which we can include in the update.

Keep an eye out for the invitations.