Legal: Permits? Do we need stinking permits?

We are planning a gathering. Scouts will be in the area in June to finalize the location. You do not need a permit to have a gathering.

I will write to Linda and Gandalf and link this conversation .
Thanks Lisa!!

In Sac, we're attempting to get permission/permits for our sleeping place and the parks where we'll have events. The reason for this is we're going to have agendas for each day, with skillshares, musicians, speakers, workshops--many of the presenters will have come from quite a long way, and it would be a shame if we had to cancel their presentations because we were focused on the cops, who, trust me, would definitely arrest us. We had many, many "sleep" protests in Sac, and cops always arrested everyone who wouldn't leave in the wee hours of the morning.

That being said, we should definitely have some flexibility in our schedule for spontaneous "actions" we might decide to do. Marches, occupations, other fun stuff : - ),even sleep protests if some folks want to do that. But for people who don't want to risk arrest, we want to have safe sleeping places.

LIsa, you are thinking like me—but be wary of over scheduling the day (as you mention in your second comment). One thing that I wanted to do in Kalamazoo—someone from Gainesville even stepped up to cofacilitate (nervously, as it would have been new to him) at lunch—but did not happen was to have a session for Occupys to simply catch up on what is going on, share tips, etc.—an old-fashioned coffee klatch, if you will.

Totally agree on having a variety of levels of safety / From permitted safe spaces to direct actons.

Maybe calling finding out what your up to can be called A Mega-Report Back - will clarify what we are looking for Report Backs on autonomous actions

We always have to balance pick and choose decide fine lines, where the consequences aren't always foreseeable. Law is the ideal area for this, along with science. They both use the same evidential method, Applied in the person's mind or in what the person perceives. That's what hegemonic things do. After they take over they then are challenged to govern properly. Regarding our Gathering's security, I think we will secure ourselves and comrades and groups in true anarchist fashion, the germ of law and order. And Allstreet's comment makes me think we will indeed have a secure place with good access to the venues.

Lisa, that is great—no need to reinvent the wheel. Do they have hand-outs, or materials that we can include in the guru? Will we talk to them about having observers at any (or at least major) actions?

Tricia, sadly, AB 5 which you cite above -- the Homeless Persons' Bill of Rights -- died in committee last year. Homeless activists, Occupy Sac and allies are petitioning, protesting and doing street theater to bring attention to this issue and get local and state lawmakers to (re)introduce it.

If not resolved by then, and realizing that the legislature is out of session, AB 5 might a focus for NatGat.