Wed 12 Feb 2014 4:33AM

Membership Drive

DS Danyl Strype Public Seen by 26

Now that we have our CRM functioning at My.PirateParty.org.nz, it's time to do a major membership drive. As well as bringing in the 500 members we need to become a registered political party, this will bring in the funds and volunteers we need to take the Party organisation to the next level. Some of the things current members can do to bring in new members may include:

  • email every family member, friend, acquaintance or contact who may be interested in being a member, and encourage them to join. Include info about joining use My.PP and Pirate Camp. I just did this today.
  • push out this message through your social media networks on FB, Twitter, Identi.ca, Tent.io etc
  • print NZPP leaflets and do a leaflet drop in your neighbourhood
  • contact your local newspapers, public access/ student radio and other local media and ask if they would like to interview you about the NZPP
  • design, print, and hand out NZ PP stickers, and stick them in prominent places

Andrew Reitemeyer Fri 21 Feb 2014 7:12PM


Danyl Strype Mon 24 Feb 2014 12:33AM

I've been thinking about a simple 'join us' leaflet along the lines of:
Have you ever:
* copied music from a CD you bought to a digital music player
* showed a DVD at a sports club social event
* sung "Happy Birthday" in public without paying a royalty to AOL-Time-Warner corporation
* played music in a cafe or restaurant without a license from the copyright holder, or a rights organisation like APRA?

If you've done any of these everyday things, YOU ARE A PIRATE!

Join the NZ Pirate Party, and help us bring copyright law into the digital age.


Hubat McJuhes Wed 16 Apr 2014 8:49AM

Can we please get some current membership numbers from the board, please?


Adam Bullen Thu 17 Apr 2014 1:08AM

@strypey I like what you are saying there, but I wonder if making people feel defensive is a positive thing.

I know it makes an impact, which is a good thing. I just wonder if a more positive message would work.


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Hubat McJuhes Thu 17 Apr 2014 2:45AM

@adam I think you approach is the better one at a later stage, once the party is known and established. @strypey's suggestion is the better option at the current point in time.

This is, because currently people don't know what the name means and where it comes from and why we choose to describe ourselves like this. At its best they think that the pirate party is a bunch of young fellows who want to legalise their modernised shoplifting habits.

But in fact we don't want to be called robbers and murderers for singing 'happy birthday' in the kindergarden. We want to pint out that a couple of very important discussions that define our future are manipulated by spin doctors which call
copying of files -> pirating;
protesting -> terrorism;
spying at the UN or allied governments -> protection against terrorism;
online freedom of speech -> protecting commercial child abuse;

All these debates are core issues of the Pirate Party. And they are very abstract and appear to be far away from every bodies life. But they aren't. And that is what strypeys approach is about - and I like it.


Andrew Reitemeyer Thu 17 Apr 2014 7:28AM

Before we go out and bring the entire population of New Zealand into the Pirate Party can someone please explain article 5.3 of the Constitution:
Membership is for a term of twelve months.


Danyl Strype Thu 17 Apr 2014 4:14PM

As we discussed at Pirate Camp, sometime after the election we will need to have an AGM, and debate any proposals to change the constitution. Unless you want to call an SGM? BTW @terryjones did our Inc Soc documents get sent to the Companies Office yet?

I wonder if we could look at having a combined micro-party conference with some other small parties with shared interests (Cannabis Party, New Economics etc), with a time slot set aside for each party to have its AGM in a separate break-out room? Or if there are people with memberships in multiple parties, a dedicated room with each party having their AGM in a different time slot?

This would potentially be a way to recuit new activists and members into the party, and launch shared campaigns, as well as and comparing and contrasting our policies on different policy areas.


[deactivated account] Fri 18 Apr 2014 3:43AM

@andrewreitemeyer we changed the membership term to 3 years, a couple of years back, which is where we lost track of a lot of members who needed to sign on again.


Andrew Reitemeyer Sun 20 Apr 2014 7:04AM

@andrewmcpherson Can you tell me why there is any sort of time limit on membership? Is it a legal requirement. I cannot think of any logical reason to have something like this.


Andrew Reitemeyer Sun 20 Apr 2014 7:05AM

Also where are the minutes for board meetings after October 2013?


[deactivated account] Sun 20 Apr 2014 3:46PM

I think it maybe a legal requirement for all political parties to have a maximum of three years membership.

Also, I am not sure about board meeting minutes after October 2013, as I have had limited contact with terry since then & have had to deal with my Fiancée being in hospital several times since then.
I will try and find out what is happening this week.


Hubat McJuhes Tue 22 Apr 2014 9:00AM

@andrewmcpherson @andrewmcpherson Could it be that there is an issue with the wording?

If the membership is one or three years, then you stop being a member after that time. If you want to still be a member, then you need to become a new member. That doesn't sound smart.

The time limit of three years is probably about the maximum time a one-off payment can finance your full membership status that is required to count towards the 500 member threshold. So this is about a membership status. The membership itself should be regarded as a subscription in that sense that after the time frame of your current payment you still are regarded a member, but lose the full membership status until the payment for the ongoing full status is received. This payment should be regarded as an ongoing duty of the member that can only be avoided by actively unsubscribing from the membership roll.
You should not automatically cease being a member.


Danyl Strype Wed 30 Apr 2014 5:20AM

"You should not automatically cease being a member."

True, but when your subscription runs out, you stop being a financial member (required to count towards 500, access to this Loomio group etc). CiviCRM keeps all contact information for those who have not kept their financial membership current (unless requested to delete them), and we can certainly still treat them as part of the Pirate movement we want to mobilize, even while they're not financial members of the party.


Ben Vidulich Wed 30 Apr 2014 12:33PM

An update regarding MyPP: there are 23 people currently registered on the site. This by no means indicates how many financial members we have - I am yet to reconcile the old records with the new ones generated by MyPP.

Also, if you have inquiries regarding membership then please email membership@pirateparty.org.nz. There's a lot of threads here and I don't currently have time to check them all. I'm generally more responsive via email though ;-)