Deactivate NatGat Loomio Planning Group

T Tricia Public Seen by 68

Now that the planning is over deactivate the group. Otherwise, people will stay on and create "hierarchy". This was a one event planning group and keeping it up for non-productive infighting would be a mistake

If anyone wants to form a new group for next year they can start off fresh.


Sally G Sun 31 Aug 2014 12:17AM

I will wait to vote until we get an answer about the material remaining accessible; that will determine my decision.


Jackie Sun 31 Aug 2014 3:47AM

I don't believe in de-activating an active space. A name change might be in order - unless this is a new group to plan the next gathering. I'll wait to vote too.


NikiV Sun 31 Aug 2014 10:37AM

i'd just say the timing of this proposal was really not good, at least in the view of my email box and the other postings made to Loomio with respect to the NatGat, especially after experiencing what I have witnessed and been a part of these past 7 months. sigh, makes me listen twice to that voice for transparency, etc.


Tricia Sun 31 Aug 2014 11:44AM

We had previously agreed to disband so there would be no "insider" group, that people can form a new group, with new people and veterans of past years to plan another gathering if desired.

I feel this is degenerating into a witch hunt, unfounded accusations - looking at someone's other groups and speculating about them, conspiracy theories, saying there are mysterious happenings when the process has been completely transparent.

That's not cool. That's not Solidarity.


Carolyn Dixon Mon 1 Sep 2014 1:02AM

I'd like to see a new working group that would develop some guidelines to help us avoid the kind of dissension that occurred this year.


Lisa Mon 1 Sep 2014 1:54AM

I'd like to be finished with the weekly calls, but I'd like to stay connected (email lists?) so we can find ways to sell our leftover T-shirts. Can Elane set up a T-shirt online "shop" for us?


Tricia Mon 1 Sep 2014 10:50AM

Here's the response from Loomio:

Hi Tricia,

At this stage when you deactivate a group the content is preserved but hidden. So maybe what you'd prefer to do is to remove the group members so there is no further activity, but keep the group as it is (active) so that the content is still accessible as a reference.

I'm sorry there's no perfect solution, we are working on ways to improve these systems :)

Please let me know if I can answer any further questions.

Kind regards,



Tricia Mon 1 Sep 2014 2:17PM

I don't think ppl will like to be removed from the group ~ We could change the name and continue on as an "affinity" group with a clean slate. People who want out can remove themselves.

In light of this response from Loomio, and the fact that they are in Beta mode, why not ask their help by seeing if they could use what happened here as guinea pigs and find out where things went right and how it went wrong.
Then we can all "condense" on creating or sharing guidelines of communication to use as reference in the future.


Tricia Tue 2 Sep 2014 11:51PM

A suggestion was to change the name to include "Retired"


NikiV Wed 3 Sep 2014 2:10AM

this thread is indicative of the issues that remain. but, seems like people don't care about that for others who still have issues that remain. it will naturally end when it does, let things naturally happen. or not. when it is your issue, you would want the same respect.

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