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Sense checks for Mastodon 4.4 update

Dan PhifferDan Phiffer Tue 22 Jul 2025 5:58PMPublicSeen by 272

Mastodon 4.4 introduces a couple new features that we should consider as a cooperative. I'm posting on behalf of Tech Working Group to get a sense check on a couple topics.

janwlrvn@social.coop

janwlrvn@social.coopSat 8 Nov 2025 3:28PM

Will there be a similar discussion for Mastodon 4.5?

Flancian

FlancianSat 8 Nov 2025 3:41PM

@janwlrvnsocial.coop I don't think there's any planned; which aspects of the update do you think could merit a check? (I haven't reviewed the update yet.)

Update: I have reviewed the release notes and I don't see aspects that would require a pulse check, but let me know if I missed something!

Andrew Escobar (Andres) · social.coop Finance Working Group

@Flancian perhaps the thought was support for quote posts, but Mastodon has included user safety and privacy controls with this feature rollout

janwlrvn@social.coop

janwlrvn@social.coopWed 12 Nov 2025 10:17AM

@Andrew Escobar (Andres) · social.coop Finance Working Group Indeed, I thought maybe quote posts could require a pulse check.

Aaron GK

Aaron GKTue 17 Feb 2026 7:41PM

Sorry I'm a bit late to this discussion. I do not see any value in creating a terms of service. Our code of conduct already pays out the terms of service for our members. A TOS encompassing member rights and responsibilities would be redundant at best and at worst could have inconsistencies with the code of conduct that could create confusion and unclear policy of either needed to be invoked in a situation. If anything a TOS should mostly say our members must agree to the code of conduct.

For external users, such as other mastodon users, other mastodon instances, the general public viewing social.coop on the web, and bots, the federation abuse policy pays out a lot of the terms of service that apply to them. It may make sense to incorporate that directly into any TOS document because it doesn't exist on social.coop proper and external users don't go through a process where they are required to know of and agree to the federation abuse policy. However I'm still not sure I see any value in creating a TOS for external users. Among Mastodon users and instances I think there's enough understanding, or at least access to understanding, that interaction between users and instances, and instances and instances is voluntary and either party can end it. I have concerns about AI scraper bots but they don't care about TOS so...