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Are we giving credit where credit is due?

Stuart YeatesStuart Yeates Thu 8 May 2014 8:04AMPublicSeen by 10

There are a ton of great looking people in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:New_Zealand_scientists almost none of whom seem to get talked about. Should we be talking more about our great scientists (living and dead)? Which ones?

Tim McNamara

Tim McNamaraThu 8 May 2014 8:15PM

Wow - this list is a great list.

I would say that it's very worthwhile to make this happen. Every field has its leaders. A slightly flippant question though perhaps - what would it mean to "talk about" someone. Who should be involved in that conversation? How do we make it a conversation?

Stuart Yeates

Stuart YeatesThu 8 May 2014 8:39PM

It means that there's an awareness of these people, so that when a student of and expresses an interest in , someone knows to tell them "You should read up about " where has the same and and the student. It's about having a handy set of role models / stereotypes to inspire people.

[I really need to go through that list and do race / nationality better for pacifica people]

Tim McNamara

Create a "Researcher you should know" Tumblr

proposal by Tim McNamara Closed Sun 25 May 2014 8:10AM

We have a large list of researchers on Wikipedia.. I wonder if 'bite size' posts about those researchers (and links to more details) would make for an interesting Tumblr feed.

Results

ResultsOptionVotes% of votes cast% of eligible voters
Agree1257Alex Taylor
Abstain1257Pierre Roudier
Disagree000 
Block25013Kimberley CollinsStuart Yeates
Undecided1173Fabiana KubkeTim McNamaraNicola GastonShaun HendySiouxsie WilesDion O'NealeBen CurranThomas LumleyKate HannahJessica CostaWilliam  Asiata

4 of 15 votes cast (26% participation)

Stuart Yeates

Stuart Yeates
Agree
Wed 14 May 2014 8:58PM

greatkiwiresearchers.tumblr.com?

Pierre Roudier

Pierre Roudier
Abstain
Wed 14 May 2014 9:52PM

My opinion is really divided on that one:
- I do think it would make a lot of sense to have a repository of short/punchy articles about our unsung heroes,
- OTOH I wonder if priority shouldn't be to increase the Wikipedia articles first.

Kimberley Collins

Kimberley Collins
Block
Wed 14 May 2014 9:53PM

I really like this idea - it's important to show that researchers are human. However, I'm not so keen on the idea of a Tumblr.

I'm wondering if Tumblr is the right medium (/right audience) and don't see the point in re-inventing the wheel.

Stuart Yeates

Stuart Yeates
Block
Fri 23 May 2014 12:21AM

greatkiwiresearchers.tumblr.com?

update: i'm going to change my yes to a block. we need a more detailed plan and better agreement on platform before we create public mouthpiece.

Pierre Roudier

Pierre RoudierWed 14 May 2014 9:57PM

If we go bite-size, what about a Twitter stream?

Kimberley Collins

Kimberley CollinsWed 14 May 2014 10:11PM

Funnily enough, my master's research was looking at how scientists use Twitter and it's definitely a possibility. There is a curated account, called @realscientists - http://www.twitter.com/realscientists - which has proven to be popular.

I think we need to agree on who our audience is before we can consider a medium.

Stuart Yeates

Stuart YeatesWed 14 May 2014 10:57PM

Pierre Roudier: if you want to increase the number of NZ science biographies on wikipedia, it is largely a question of getting the sources. In an ideal world, professional organisations (including historically female-dominated ones) would digitise their honours, office holders and life members lists; (ideally their full archives, but that's where to start). If you're serious about putting effort in this direction, start a thread at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WPNZ which is the logical place to coordinate.

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