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Membership/admission decisions

HR Harry "Outlandish" Robbins Public Seen by 104

A place to discuss individual applications from potential CoTech members (co-ops).

Discussions about changing/defining/refining policies should be had on Discourse and then brought here for ratification

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Graham Fri 29 Sep 2017 6:20AM

...owned and democratically controlled...

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Graham Fri 29 Sep 2017 6:31AM

Which takes us back to my earlier question, is the Developer Society owned and democratically controlled by the workers? If this is the essence of the rule for membership of Cotech, then presumably we need to know the answer to this question before anyone can vote on the proposal. If the ''client and 'founder' stakeholder groups can outvote the workers, then it could be argued that the workers don't have control, and therefore that the organisation doesn't meet the criteria for membership. Or are we saying that we are aren't concerned about this, because they "seem" like a good fit. (Note that I'm raising this point not to be bloody minded or obstructive, but because I want some clarity, and some solid information on which to base my decision).

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Shaun Fensom Fri 29 Sep 2017 8:47AM

@graham2 is of course correct. Are they or aren't they?

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Harry "Outlandish" Robbins Mon 9 Oct 2017 2:22PM

FYI I have requested the relevant documents and extended the deadline for voting for Friday so we can discuss the various questions people have raised.
There's a bit of a flaw to discussing these things in a place where non-members can't comment.
Does anyone know co-op development advisor Alex Bird who helped create their structure?

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Harry "Outlandish" Robbins Mon 9 Oct 2017 2:39PM

My bad - they sent them to me ages ago and I failed to post them. Please review and update your responses @thomasparisot @chrislowis @graham2 @chriscroome

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Harry "Outlandish" Robbins Mon 9 Oct 2017 2:47PM

As far as I can see it's a classic employee/customer multi-stakeholder co-op with specific provision for the Founder Members having seats on the board of directors. If there is a provision for different types of members having different voting powers I can't find it but this isn't my area of expertise.

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"If there is a provision for different types of members having different voting powers I can't find"

I can't either, regarding Graham's question:

"do the workers have a controlling interest?"

It would appear to me that they do as long as the founders are workers.

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Harry "Outlandish" Robbins Thu 12 Oct 2017 3:39PM

@graham2 @chrislowis @thomasparisot I believe all the information that's been requested has been posted now. Could you update your votes if necessary? I guess we'll take abstentions as abstentions otherwise (e.g. they'll be allowed to join)

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Chris Lowis (Go Free Range) Thu 12 Oct 2017 3:51PM

We probably don't have time or the expertise to do a proper review of the documents you shared @harryrobbins before the deadline. More than happy to go with the majority on this one, they seem great!

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Roy Brooks Thu 12 Oct 2017 3:59PM

As @harryrobbins, no expert on co-op constitutions, but they do seem to tick all the important boxes... and working for good.

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