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Tue 24 Jan 2017 11:57PM

HOUSING - discussion of camp housing options

TC

Tom Catino Thu 26 Jan 2017 5:37AM

Yurteco prices are very high I found the price list page
here. http://www.yourteco.com/modele/

KP

Kevin Peterson Thu 26 Jan 2017 12:17PM

Earth Bag construction is very in expensive, it you have a lot of volunteers, the work goes quickly. Here are a couple of examples.

How to build an earthbag home for $11.50 per square foot

http://www.treehugger.com/green-architecture/how-build-earthbag-home-1150-square-foot.html

MB

Marcus Busby Thu 26 Jan 2017 12:31PM

Earthbag is a near-perfect answer for the site, however this was floated early on in discussions on the public FB page, as were various other types of semi-permanent shelter construction.

My understanding was that we were advised this would require planning permits. As yet, we only have permission for temporary structures on-site.

FYI Alfonso also offered to renovate farm buildings for ERC and for ERC to rent these.

FYI Earthshelter Knowledgebase page: https://knowledgebase.permaculture.org.uk/practical-solutions/earth-sheltered-construction

MB

Marcus Busby Thu 26 Jan 2017 12:32PM

My understanding was that we were advised this would require planning permits. As yet, we only have permission for temporary structures on-site.

@johndennisliu ?

JA

Jeff Anderson Thu 26 Jan 2017 3:00PM

I was also thinking of earthbag construction as an option (for the second phase of building, not for the first phase to house the build team). But yes, we'd need to clarify the planning permission status of these. They're probably in a grey area between 'temporary' and 'permanent'. I think they're more likely to be considered 'permanent' by planning authorities, which would rule them out as options for the site.

KP

Kevin Peterson Thu 26 Jan 2017 12:19PM

This is Earthbag and Bamboo construction which is pretty smart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aauxaYgvLdo

JA

Jeff Anderson Thu 26 Jan 2017 2:56PM

Copy of John's post from Yurt discussion thread:

"I'm wondering if we shouldn't start with Safari Tents that we purchase and then build the more elaborate dwellings. https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/luxury-safari-tent-for-sale.html"

We can continue the discussion of other cheaper, simpler housing options here, prioritising immediate requirements for the camp-build team. If the budget allows, we can keep as an option buying one yurt as a model for building our own, and as a first common home space that's cosy and easy to heat.

MB

Marcus Busby Sun 29 Jan 2017 1:58AM

Franko Gohse shared images of a very good looking safari tent, with double canvas and ample windows and interior spaces.. looking for link - will add when I find

JA

Jeff Anderson Sun 29 Jan 2017 10:14AM

Yes, it was these ones: http://www.tentickle-luxurytents.com/
I didn't look further into it because they're in South Africa, don't list prices and I assume they will be super-expensive. They do look very nice though. I'll look for something similar in Europe.

JA

Jeff Anderson Thu 26 Jan 2017 3:08PM

We should clarify the option of renting accomodation from Alfonso. I believe he said he would need at least a month to renovate the buildings. But what exactly is on offer? How many rooms, with capacity to accomodate how many people, already with power, water, toilet, shower and some kind of kitchen? Would we pay only rental or also some of the costs of refurbishment?

This option could serve well until the build team have established at least basic infrastructure at the camp site.

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