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2014.8.15 DRAFT Minutes

J Joum Public Seen by 15

2014.8.15 DRAFT Minutes of the Senator Online Internal Governance group
Conference Call Meeting

Meeting opened: Via:freeconferencecall.com Time: 2pm

Attendance: Paul Martin, Nick Debenham, Oliver Minter, Sven Wiener, LB Joum
Apologies: Ricky Jefferyes, Francois Grespel, Berge Der Sarkissian.
Meeting “Check-in”
Joum – Hi Good to be here
Nick – Hi Good to be here
Oliver – Interested to test ooVoo
Paul – Good to be here. Keen to see a solid structure created for our group.
Sven – Talked about the timing of the next Tasmanian election.

Minutes of the previous meeting: were passed by the group on loomio.
Strategy:
* Administration
Joum – Not much to report.
* Database
Oliver – Not much to report. Talked about email to berge and adrian. Still waiting for response.
Paul – asked what time frame might be for database.
Oliver – not sure. Oliver spoke about the fields of the membership form.
Paul – asked if the group needs any help.
Oliver - said No, they have no access to the database yet.
* Fundraising
Oliver – Has created the group in Loomio. Asked if anyone would like to join. - (No response)
* Newsletter
Oliver Ricky has been elected as delegate.
Joum – said in future he will take a lead position if no progress.
Paul – Game of stamina. As long as we keep working on it.
* Social Media
Joum – said Peter Lindsay, Ricky, and Joum have been contributing.
Paul – while the Government having bad popularity we have a better chance of grabbing public's attention.
* Voting Software
Joum – Spoke about new members in loomio.
* Website
Oliver – Started a list of things we need to do. Need more instruction from Adrian.
Paul – asked, is it too soon to know if you need help?
Oliver – answered No, don't need help.
*Internal Governance
Paul – Is about how we make decisions and turn energy into actions. Wants people to join loomio group. 3 ways of making decisions. Need to refine the process. Eg. This meeting is a general management meeting so the groups can know what each other is up to. Asked if we can go around group to see who wanted to be in the group.
Joum – yes.
Nick – thinks internal governance is low priority. Number one goal is to get senator elected. If SOL gets 400,000 votes in an election eligible for funding. We need to understand preferential voting system better. SOL has its best chance in Senate election via preference deals. All our activities should be working towards these.
Actions:
1. Understand Preferences
2. Publicity around elections
3. Select Candidates
Oliver – Yes, include in group.
Paul – Yes
Sven – add to loomio group.
General Business
Sven – Talked about elections in Tasmania and Name Change.
Paul – would be good to get a debrief of the last election from Adrian Z as he was the campaign manager in the last election. Asked Oliver if he could talk to Adrian.
Oliver – Yes.
* Name Change
Sven – The name SOL has already got some recognition but not in council elections.
Joum – suggest we talk on loomio SOL Australia about:
1. Potential Names
2. SOL being active in all levels of government.
Paul – Hopes to get a speaker from Irish Direct Democracy Party. They did very well in elections. Www.ddaustralia.com.au already taken by another party.
* Tasmanian Council
Paul asked Sven is he proposing running for council?
Sven – not himself but could be lots of other potential candidates.
Paul – Suggest Sven asks potential candidates if they are interested.
Sven – agreed to do.
*Strategy
Paul – Asked What are our priorities?
Joum – Our group achieving something, like newsletter. Aquiring more help and getting more members.

Nick –
1. 400,000 votes in an election
2. Senator Elected
We failed in getting micro party preferences in the last election. We need a person in charge of preferences.
3. Select candidates.
Oliver – Structure. Referred to a question Manfred Posted on FB (“what would you consider is the *single most important measurement of SOL's progression?”). Getting the newsletter done. Creating a website online membership form. Add to the party membership.
Paul – Strategy is number 1
1. Strategy. Spending time voting on every step is wasting time. Have not got a unified front.
2. Getting 10,000 members.

Let others (Open Public?) listen in on our meetings.
Sven – Demonstrate how DD can work by getting someone elected. Thinks local government would give us that example. If someone was elected we would need good structure, like Paul said, or we would be a bad example.
Oliver – Agrees with Sven, SOL can demonstrate by getting elected, at same time have to get software or will look bad. Need larger core management. More people working on things.
Joum – no comment.
Nick – Structure is consistent with goals.
Oliver – Add increase staff work-force.
Paul – Thinks we are pretty well aligned in our comments on what we need to do. He will start being active in loomio.
*Sven lost connection?? 3:11
Paul - Wrap up. Stick with meetings at 2 weeks.
Next meeting: 29.8.2014 2pm.
Closing Round
Joum – Been a good meeting.
Nick – Developing in right direction.
Oliver – Happy attending meetings. Will be good to see Nick and Sven join us in Loomio where we can continue discussing the details of this meeting.
Paul – good to discuss ideas and priorities. Encouraged by people wanting to discuss structure.
Meeting ends: 3:15pm

OM

Oliver Minter Fri 15 Aug 2014 1:01AM

I am unsure whether i am correct in saying this but it seems that you wanted to create all these extra groups for us to work on in Facebook, so that you could invite other people to contribute to our discussions Ricky. If that is the case, why don't you just ask them questions in the FB public forum and report back to the relevant group in Loomio? I think asking the public to splinter off from the SOL FB Forum into all these other groups is asking too much of them and confuses things. Remember that each person on Facebook has many groups/friends and pages that they are committed to reading - i think asking them to subscribe to 7 groups for senator online as well as our FB Page is excessive.

J

Joum Fri 15 Aug 2014 2:08AM

I like loomio because it is simple. I find it hard to follow discussions on FB so end up not participating.

RJ

Ricky Jefferyes Sat 16 Aug 2014 3:36AM

I created Facebook groups because it is easier to follow discussions there. You can follow and unfollow threads at will and people tend to start new threads when starting a new topic rather than just keep adding off topic comments to the one discussion that ends up being about 20 different things.

Also it is much easier to get new members to participate as they are already on Facebook and are usually not only on it but are very active on it.

RJ

Ricky Jefferyes Sat 16 Aug 2014 4:11AM

Tiered conversations means that you can reply to comments and your reply will appear directly under and indented to to the right of the comment that you replied to.

This might actually be a feature added to Facebook via Social Fixer.

It makes replies appear as they do in YouTube.

J

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Pass Minutes of meeting 2014.8.15 Closed Thu 28 Aug 2014 4:07PM

Do you pass the minutes of the conference call meeting 2014.8.15 as seen in the discussion context seen on this page?

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 60.0% 3 J OM P
Abstain 40.0% 2 RJ BDS
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 7 RT F EW O K AD GC

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Berge Der Sarkissian
Abstain
Mon 25 Aug 2014 8:05AM

Was absent but minutes were great a providing thoughts discussed (Joum Thanks)

RJ

Ricky Jefferyes
Abstain
Mon 25 Aug 2014 11:43AM

Absent from meeting. Thanks again Joum.