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Tue 19 Aug 2014 12:59AM

v0.5 Design Update

EEK Eugene Eric Kim Public Seen by 13

In the interest of transparency and openness, I'm going to start shifting discussion away from private email into this discussion group.

We have an internal deadline of first-pass assigning values to mindsets by EOD tomorrow (Tuesday). Amy will also have mockups for the v0.5 design by EOD tomorrow.

I've taken a first pass at reorganizing the spreadsheet, making some of the values checkboxes. For now, please add new values to the old Values column, and I'll review and incorporate them into checkboxes as appropriate.

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Amy Wu Wed 20 Aug 2014 12:49AM

Hi! Here are mockups for the v0.5 cards. Looking forward to your feedback and comments!

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Eugene Eric Kim Wed 20 Aug 2014 3:07AM

I love these, Amy. I love the font choice and the decidedly Amy feel. I prefer the second mockup for the back (the one with the head and the mind filled in) and the third mockup for the front (the one with the thought bubble surrounding the mindset).

We should not have "more of," "neutral," or "less of" included as text. Important to keep that ambiguous so that people can decide where the cards belong. The colors should serve as enough of a hint. I like the colors you've chosen.

Are you using Noun Project icons? I like those too, and I like the blanks.

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Poll Created Wed 20 Aug 2014 3:52AM

Mockups for v0.5 Closed Thu 21 Aug 2014 7:00PM

Outcome
by Eugene Eric Kim Wed 26 Apr 2017 9:45AM

Updating the proposal based on Amy's suggestion.

Backside: Second mockup (head with shaded mind)

Frontside: Third mockup (thought bubble)

Eliminate "Less of," "Neutral," "More of" text.

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 50.0% 1 EEK
Abstain 0.0% 0  
Disagree 50.0% 1 AW
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 4 RP KC KW OZ

2 of 6 people have voted (33%)

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Eugene Eric Kim
Agree
Wed 20 Aug 2014 3:53AM

These are my current preferences, but I'm open to pushback. Let your opinions be known!

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Amy Wu
Disagree
Wed 20 Aug 2014 4:44AM

I'm fine with the choice of backside and with eliminating the less-of, neutral, more-of labels. However, I prefer the color blocks over the thought bubble for the mindset side.

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Amy Wu Wed 20 Aug 2014 4:41AM

Most of the icons are Noun Project icons, I think one is public domain, and the trust one is mine from compendium. I didn't spend too much time on this quick round; ultimately for Noun Project cc attrib. icons, we'll have to buy license or find space for credit.

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Eugene Eric Kim Wed 20 Aug 2014 5:34AM

Amy, can you say more about why you prefer the color blocks over the thought bubbles? Is it purely aesthetic?

I like the thought bubbles for both aesthetic but also content reasons, as the thought bubbles reinforce the notion that the mindsets are things that people are thinking.

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Amy Wu Wed 20 Aug 2014 7:29PM

My reasons are aesthetic and practical. The blocks will be visually less noisy when the cards are spread out. Also, there's a little more space for text in the block than the bubble; with the bubble, we may have to change the font size for some of the longer ones (adding more visual noise).

EEK

Poll Created Thu 21 Aug 2014 7:02PM

Color blocks Closed Sun 24 Aug 2014 7:08AM

Outcome
by Eugene Eric Kim Wed 26 Apr 2017 9:45AM

We've got an 11th hour plea from Rebecca to change the backside, which we'll leave to Amy to decide. Seems like we have agreement on everything else.

Backside: Second mockup (head with shaded mind)

Frontside: First and second mockups (color blocks)

Eliminate “Less of,” “Neutral,” “More of” text.

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 100.0% 3 EEK AW KC
Abstain 0.0% 0  
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 3 RP KW OZ

3 of 6 people have voted (50%)

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Eugene Eric Kim
Agree
Thu 21 Aug 2014 7:04PM

I would still love to figure out a way to reinforce the fact that these descriptions are mindsets, and I still love the way the thought bubbles look. However, I'll defer to Amy's reasoning, which makes perfect sense to me.

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Eugene Eric Kim Thu 21 Aug 2014 7:05PM

I'm still trying to figure out the best way to use Loomio for this sort of thing. Ideally, I'd love to have had a separate poll for each element of the mockup we need to decide, which would have enabled us to get to quick consensus on two of the points and continue discussing the third (blocks versus thought bubbles). Still, I think this will work for now.

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Amy Wu Thu 21 Aug 2014 7:33PM

Where are we with the spreadsheet?

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Amy Wu Thu 21 Aug 2014 7:36PM

Also, can folks weigh in on the behavior/values/mindset definitions? any feedback, but esp. the language (there are variations)

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Eugene Eric Kim Thu 21 Aug 2014 10:54PM

It doesn't look like there have been any changes to the spreadsheet beyond the structural changes I made earlier this week. I need to go through the actual definitions and corresponding values.

Amy, are you asking if you can give feedback, or are you asking for others to give feedback? The answer to both is yes!

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REBECCA PETZEL Sun 24 Aug 2014 5:27PM

Eck! Did I miss the deadline? what happens to this comment since I did? Anyways, Just wanted to comment I prefer the first mock-up if it's not too late. I find the head (instead of the thought bubble) on the back to actually be distracting! I prefer the thought bubble on the back with the color blocks for the mindsets. It's clean, it's visually appealing, and I don't get distracted by other thoughts. When I see the "dude" I don't think mindsets: I think anatomy, I think biology, etc. Not a big deal, but the thought bubble feels more accurate, purer, and less distracting. My two, convoluted, late to the game cents!

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Eugene Eric Kim Sun 24 Aug 2014 5:47PM

I'll defer to Amy on this one. The reason I voted for the second mockup was that I liked the thought bubble on the front. But if we're not going to use the thought bubble on the front, definitely okay with it being on the back.

Your timing is perfect, as Amy's going to lay out the cards tomorrow. Rebecca, I see that you created a production schedule / decision making thread. I'll post some more extensive comments there.

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Amy Wu Tue 26 Aug 2014 10:55PM

Here are the value icons.

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Amy Wu Wed 27 Aug 2014 2:27PM

Here's the first proof: https://drive.google.com/a/wordsdesign.com/file/d/0B0JsmbUm9hvKeVpzWEg2N2Y2c3c/edit?usp=sharing.
(sorry, loomio wouldn't let me attach directly here)
I changed the wording on a couple of the cards for fit or grammar. The changes are noted in the spreadsheet with blue highlight. Please respond with corrections by 10 am today (8/27). Thanks!

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Eugene Eric Kim Wed 27 Aug 2014 5:18PM

Woohoo! @amywu, these are beautiful, as always.

In addition to this, really appreciate all of the last minute editorial contributions from you, @rebeccapetzel, and @kristincobble. The mindsets themselves feel strong, and we're testing some interesting design hypotheses in this go-around.

Proofs go to the printer today, decks will be available next week!