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Shall Dignity be exclusive just to our launch partners to begin with?

Pasco PublicSeen by 191

We have just decided to partner with The Real Junk Food Project Brighton. Woohoo! There is a debate internally, that opening up the marketplace to allow members to fundraise for other causes could be beneficial at this stage. Let's make a decision together.

Let's start exclusive, and diversify later.

proposal by Pasco Closed Sat 13 Oct 2018 11:02AM

I believe RJFP have plenty enough supporters locally to get the ball rolling and to officially pilot our new platform. Then after a month or two, we can reflect and decide if we want to diversify to 1 other charity or all other charities. There is value in starting simple, focused and with small iterative growth.

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Pasco
Agree

This feels right in my gut. Starting as simply as we can, slowly progressing to more complexity, when we need to. Let's test and try with a smaller pool of people. Let's get one thing right first :) Then aim for more.

Luke Flegg
Abstain

I'm abstaining for this proposal too as I'm happy and motivated to support either and believe neither will cause harm, both will advance us & I also have some concerns re: both competing proposals. I'd support this approach (partly coz RJFP say it's their preference) but also think it'll mean fewer total gigs p/month & might make grant funding (and Gift Aid) harder for us to get because we're almost acting as a fundraising arm of one single charity. Also will require a rebrand when diversify.

Paul Loman
Agree

Taking this in conjunction with my comment on the other proposition, I am voting to pilot the platform with RJFP supporters to test their appetite.

Adam Buckingham
Agree

I agree with this, for the reasons we discussed in the meeting. Seems to make sense to start slow, and as well as possible, with all energy and resources and then learn what works well and what doesn't. Then you can take this knowledge forwards with new ventures.

Todd Arnold
Disagree

It could very confusing to the DP brand if it switches to one charity and then later runs a different model. It can be a challenging enough concept to get over: changing the goal posts in a few months or years I sense creates as many problems as it solves. Dealing with the dynamic of various causes involved needs addressing from the outset if that’s to be at the heart of DP. Perhaps a pilot period of 5 or 10 different organisations to learn how to navigate diversity....

Let's start with radically inclusivity.

proposal by Pasco Closed Sat 13 Oct 2018 11:02AM

There is added value in allowing members to fundraise for any (vetted) Planet before Profit organisation. The choice element gives freedom and runs by our ethos of 'giving how you want'.

Results

Luke Flegg
Abstain

  1. Can I check by "fundraise for whoever they want" means "fundraise for any 'Planet before profit cause' they want" (or whatever similar wording, because this wording sounds like we would be facilitating our users fundraising for the EDL, which I don't think I'd be happy with.

  2. I'm voting abstain partly because I think RJFP want that, and that feels important. But I'm not disagreeing/ blocking because I'm aware some of our potential first users would like to fundraise for other causes

Luke Flegg
Abstain

  1. Can I check "fundraise for whoever they want" means "fundraise for any 'Planet before profit' they want" because this wording sounds like we'd happily facilitate users fundraising for the EDL, which I don't think I'd be happy with!

  2. I'm voting abstain partly because I think RJFP want that, and that feels important. But I'm not disagreeing/ blocking because I'm aware some of our potential first users would like to fundraise for other causes and I think this would mean more gigs happening.

Paul Loman
Abstain

Abstaining is a bit of a cop out , I know. It comes down to a judgment about how active the RJFP supporters are likely to be on the platform and will there be sufficient numbers. I don't think we can know until we test the market.

Pasco
Disagree

Let's start with baby steps, simplicity is always the key.

Pasco

I've updated it to: "to fundraise for any (vetted) Planet before Profit organisation."

Todd Arnold

If you exclude people’s passions DP will become known as synonymous with a certain cause ONLY and this will radically limit potential involvement as well as create identity issues for DP later on once it opens up...

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Pasco

Hi @toddarnold - we only plan to be exclusive to one cause to start with, the reasons are mainly to do with our limited capacity as a team, and starting with a simple model. We also wish to prove the concept and success with one charity, to show a good track record; in order to gain funding to expand and grow to other causes accordingly.