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Collection of Lecture 2 funds even if the tilt has not been reached

ÉL Érick Lavoie Public Seen by 10

As part of the first and second crowd-funding campaigns for ‘The SAFE Network From First Principles’ series of lectures we used a ‘ransom’ model for obtaining funding from the community, which means that we are withholding the youtube edited version of the lectures until we reach a certain threshold of funding.

It worked really well for the first campaign but now, after more than one month, we are still ~300$US short of the 1000$US tilt amount for the second campaign. We initially decided to extend the campaign until the amount would be reached before distributing the videos. However, that delays the distribution of the videos for an indefinite amount of time.

We are now thinking of moving to a subscription-based model for the third lecture and onward, along the lines of Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/), in order to avoid having to force contributors to make an explicit and deliberate contribution on every new video released. Instead, they would commit to contribute a certain amount, up to a monthly ceiling, for every new video released.

In order to migrate to that funding model sooner, we would end the current campaign for Lecture 2, collect everyone’s money, and release the videos even though the tilt has not been reached. Since we are changing the terms of the campaign mid-course, we need the agreement of contributors for those changes to happen. You are therefore invited to vote on that change.

On a meta note, we are using the opportunity to experiment with Loomio for collective decision-making within the SAFE community and should that experiment be successful, we will use it more in the future.

ÉL

Poll Created Fri 23 Jan 2015 7:35AM

Release all the videos for Lecture 2 and collect contributor's money even if the tilt has not been reached Closed Fri 30 Jan 2015 11:04PM

Outcome
by Érick Lavoie Tue 25 Apr 2017 5:29AM

Everyone agree so we are going forward with the proposal. Francis already released the lectures on the youtube channel.

By agreeing to that proposal as a contributor to the campaign, you agree that:
1. We release the videos on Youtube for universal access sooner that the current campaign’s ending;
2. We collect the money you pledged even though the tilt amount has not been reached (we will do so by lowering the tilt amount and shortening the campaign duration);

If any of the contributors disagree with the proposal, we will drop the proposal and discuss collectively what we should do instead.

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 100.0% 10 FB ÉL RB SG NL D DD JK TA FH
Abstain 0.0% 0  
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 0  

10 of 10 people have voted (100%)

ÉL

Érick Lavoie
Agree
Fri 23 Jan 2015 8:39AM

For contributors, it changes little, it mostly means that for us who created the video, we are agree to release them for less than we initially expected. Erick

ÉL

Érick Lavoie
Agree
Fri 23 Jan 2015 8:40AM

For contributors, it changes little, it mostly means that for us who created the video, we are agree to release them for less than we initially expected.

RB

Rich Beer
Agree
Fri 23 Jan 2015 8:43AM

I contributed because I want this info out there to everyone asap, not because I wanted special access.

FB

Francis Brunelle
Agree
Fri 23 Jan 2015 9:06AM

Instead of crowdfunding many videos at the same time, I think it makes sense to fund video at a time and ask for smaller contributions per person.

FB

Francis Brunelle
Agree
Fri 23 Jan 2015 9:06AM

Instead of crowdfunding many videos at the same time, I think it makes sense to fund one video at a time and ask for smaller contributions per person.

NL

Nick Lambert
Agree
Fri 23 Jan 2015 10:18AM

I agree with your reasoning and happy with the changes to the campaign. Go for it!
I don't have a strong preference about what platform you use.

RB

Rich Beer
Agree
Fri 23 Jan 2015 6:52PM

The more outlets the better. Youtube, Vimeo, Watchmybit, etc.

DD

Daniel Dabek
Agree
Fri 23 Jan 2015 8:16PM

Agreed, I know that in the future; as these are tremendously useful explanations, the people will hopefully value this knowledge; Looking forward to support to maximum allocations from Infinity Algorithms capital per lecture per month;

FH

frank huang
Agree
Fri 30 Jan 2015 6:11AM

yes I agree

RB

Rich Beer Fri 23 Jan 2015 8:27AM

I am all for releasing videos asap to youtube.
For future content funding Patreon might work well. But I think watchmybit.com is better suited to this case. At watchmybit.com you can charge per view, any amount you choose and viewers pay with bitcoin. Once the video is paid for viewers have access to it for 24 hours. A combination of the two is an even better idea.
That said, I believe that the content you are creating would also be a valuable addition to the LTB network. Adding your content there would also qualify you to be rewarded in LTBcoin which is steadily rising in value it would also expose thousands of listeners to the details of Maidsafe tech. It would also be a good idea to create your own asset on the NXT, Counterparty and Bitshares platform. From what I have seen NXT assets are easiest and least expensive to create, but this is the time to reach out to every emerging crypto-community.

SG

Simon G Fri 23 Jan 2015 8:48AM

(About how to proceed for the next lectures) To me the simpler and the less contrained the better. I'd rather have everyone being given free and unlimited access to the videos regardless of contributions.

RB

Rich Beer Fri 23 Jan 2015 6:50PM

For the future it is worth considering uploading to watchmybit.com as well as youtube. This gives those of us active in the bitcoin community an easy straight forward way to contribute to your work.

D

DavidL Sat 24 Jan 2015 1:24AM

Agreed, but it might means donation will stop to an halt since the content is coming out anyway. Up to you, I'll support it either way.

JK

Jason King Sat 24 Jan 2015 2:15AM

I guess anything thats in the best interest of the project. I agree.

ÉL

Érick Lavoie Sat 24 Jan 2015 12:58PM

I am willing to trust the community and see how things go. Since the goal is not to extract maximum value but simply to get enough to keep us going that might actually work ;)

ÉL

Érick Lavoie Wed 28 Jan 2015 11:14PM

Everyone but one of the contributors has answered so far. All those that answered have agreed to the proposal so we will go with the proposal unless we hear from that last contributor within the next two days.