Engagement sub group meeting - August 2021

Hi Elizabeth, Dorothy,

I am happy to re-do the poll but this time I will hassle everyone remorselessly to participate in the poll to choose a date.

Adam, please would you initiate a poll for the next engagement subgroup meeting. I suggest you start with 2 weeks from 13th September. Though I am already heavily committed myself for that week it may be good for others - though not the Wednesday as there is a steering group meeting. Thank you.

Well let's see what any one else has to say.

I deliberately invited 8 people to vote on the next subgroup meeting date but only 4 did.

We can try again with more emphatic wording :)

Adam, thank you for this.

Apologies, I can't now find the poll and the other suggested dates, however, I can't now be there on 9th September.

I am keen to meet in person - and with as many of the Steering Group as possible. We need to discuss James Delaware's paper and its implications for our work this autumn. D

Well only 4 people voted and no day was unanimous. I think 9th Sept would be best for you 3 who voted although I can't make that evening.

Is the 9th good or shall we try to get more attendees by emailing a nagging question to the others?

Dorothy also raised the question of whether to meet in person or on zoom.

I can set up a zoom link if neededi when I get back from holiday.

Best A

Do we have an agreed date for the next Engagement sub-group meeting following the recent poll?

Here are the notes on the 4th August meeting:

Here are Elizabeth's notes on the 14th July meeting for convenience.

Here is a useful update from Dorothy:

On Wed, 4 Aug 2021 at 16:20, Dorothy Newton <dorothyrnewton@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Elizabeth and Hugh

I am not able to attend this evening - Wednesdays - in this timeslot - are not good for me.

Here's a few quick updates of people I've been in contact with.

The Islington Women's Walks have been going well - I've attended the three so far.

The next one is organised by the Network of Finsbury Park women's groups and is largely around Andover/Six Acres (The flyer is on our website). I talked with Ruth Clarke who is organising it, at the last one. I've asked about which groups are members of the network and floated the idea of talking with them about the Plan (not on the walk)...The previous walk was from Platform in Hornsey Road but also covered part of Andover...Platform is the youth hub - just on the fringe of our patch but may be a useful place to catch young people. There is a BrightStart children's centre next door - again, may be useful as I think many families from the Andover and our patch use it.

Finsbury Park Sisters (the group of women from churches and mosques) has not met over lockdown but I met Naima from the mosque and we agreed we'd try to have a picnic in the park with games for the children before the end of the holidays..... so we can see if there are possibilities for conversations - both with the women and the children.

I've been talking with David Bovill (Mint Project/Community Radio etc) and Kasper de Graaf - Kasper seems to be organising something special for the FPCT conference - we need to get ourselves onto the agenda

The biggest issue is having a simple, straightforward narrative of what a Plan could do in our area so that people can see a reason to engage with us

I hope the meeting goes well

With all good wishes
D

Miyawaki forest would be great if we could find a suitable site.

Green bridge would be amazing if wildly ambitious (nothing wrong with that) & potential PR opportunity. As we’ve already identified, it would extend the green link route, & could be linked to one of the major station area development sites.

I’m sure you all know it already, but the Mile End green bridge was built quite a while ago now, but shows it can be done. https://www.ecosia.org/images?q=mile%20end%20green%20bridge#id=55D96DAEF2A68EAB977D8E550BADA715860E91C9

Sue

Hi @Elizabeth Lowe just been discussing ambitious local green initiatives with Susie and want to put it on the agenda. I don't want to edit and start passing around another version of your agenda document so I'll just note it here and bring it up in AOB.

(1) mini urban forests like this https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jun/13/fast-growing-mini-forests-spring-up-in-europe-to-aid-climate

(2) green bridge over Stroud Green Road and Seven Sisters, parallel to railway

If we get support from the community engagement we should have it in the plan. I can't see the councils coming up with this by themselves, so this is exactly the kind of thing we should be promoting. 

Hugh,

Thank you for doing this.

I like this letter; I like the tone and the content, and the questions, to draw people in.

Then we can put the survey with Elizabeth’s questions on the website for people to complete, with a free text box for slightly longer comments.

Unfortunately Sketch House are not hiring their hall out, but I can try Brickworks Community Centre on Crouch Hill, or possibly the Finsbury Park Trust office again, if they re-open in the autumn.

Sorry I will not be attending the meeting tomorrow as I have my son and his girlfriend coming to stay, and we will be celebrating his birthday.

Susie

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I have revised the general members email - attached below - I am not happy with it but we do need to get something out. Perhaps we can look at it tomorrow?

Yes I did see them Adam ,thank you, I can’t do tomorrow but I will accept the others.

Cheers,

Susie

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I’ve seen the calendar invitations

Sue

Do you think everyone has seen this or the calendar invitations I sent out via email? @Dorothy Newton @Susan Lowenthal @Susie Barson ?

Apologies - here is the correctly named agenda for the Engagement sub group.

Dear Elizabeth,

Thanks! I will be at the meeting and will take notes if no one else wishes to. Your green interests show: you have titled it “environment”!!

I am redrafting general email and perhaps we can discuss it?

Hugh

Thank you Hugh.

I attach an agenda - more of a guide at this stage. The items are drawn from our discussions at the last meeting.

If you can't attend the meeting it would be helpful if you would post any updates/engagement information beforehand.

Please let me know of any other issues you think we need to address.

Many thanks.

I will take notes if no one else wishes to

Topic: FPSGNF Engagement Subgroup

Time: Aug 4, 2021 06:30 PM London

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Meeting ID: 893 3679 0531

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