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CF

Cam Findlay Wed 28 Sep 2016 9:03PM

Welcome @keithabooth - it would be great if you could include the body of your text above into one other topic based conversation threads as this thread is aimed at introduction of the people rather than raising the issues and having a dialogue about them.

From reading your post here I feel what you are raising is what is of value in NZDIMP that may be impacted if the ODC becomes a core policy on open data in NZ, and how to retain this going forward.

Could I ask you to please re-post your comments above over in this thread: https://www.loomio.org/d/nRvY9XrW/impacts-of-the-open-data-charter-if-implemented-as-the-set-of-principles-for-open-data-in-new-zealand

This helps group the topic of conversation for analysis). Many thanks. :smiley:

LHB

Loomio Helper Bot Mon 29 Aug 2016 10:49PM

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KB

Keitha Booth Wed 28 Sep 2016 9:29PM

Hi, Cam. Can you please do this for me. I am in Scotland and not easily connected online. Thanks very much, Keitha

CF

Cam Findlay Tue 30 Aug 2016 9:19PM

Hi all, I'm Cam Findlay currently working at the Open Government Information and Data Programme at LINZ. I'll be helping facilitate the discussions around the open data charter and the NZ Information and Data Management Principles (along with some of the others in the team). My interests in open data stem from my involvement in open source software for a number of years. I think there is a lot of cross over and many of the benefits for open source are the same for open data. Looking forward to the discussions :smiley:

RS

Rochelle Stewart-Allen Wed 31 Aug 2016 5:24AM

Hi - I'm Rochelle Stewart-Allen, also currently working for the Open Government Info & Data Programme at LINZ. I'm excited to see this public conversation happening & looking forward to hearing your feedback on both the Open Data Charter and the NZ Data & Information Management Principles to help guide how we release open data & information in NZ going forward.

CF

Cam Findlay Wed 28 Sep 2016 9:33PM

Thanks for giving your permission - I will post on your behalf in the other thread.

SL

Sophie Lafayette Fri 2 Sep 2016 3:37PM

Hi all, I'm Sophie Lafayette and currently working with the Open Data Charter. I've worked in open data for a while, specifically in Tanzania, on both government and community-based initiatives. I'm also a New Zealander so it's great to see the public engagement on decided whether to adopt the Charter!

JC

Julian Carver Mon 5 Sep 2016 5:33AM

Hi, Julian Carver, independent consultant. Previously establishment CIO at CERA, and manager of the Canterbury Spatial Data Infrastructure Programme. Worked with the OGIDP in 2011 to develop the Principles and Declaration with involvement of Open NZ and other groups. Currently working with Data Futures Partnership on their catalyst projects, and with a regional council on data governance and management, using some of the ODI tools. Passionate about open data and excited this process of considering the IODC is underway.

K

Kay Mon 5 Sep 2016 9:14AM

Kia ora, I'm Kay Jones of Wellington. I've worked in government and not for profit sectors. I volunteer with Hack Miramar which runs hackathons. I was event lead for Govhack Wellington which couldn't run without open data. I want to see clear and open standards for data usage and training for public servants on data issues and more data literacy for everyone.

AM

Aaron McGlinchy Tue 6 Sep 2016 4:57AM

Aaron McGlinchy, Research Data Manager at Landcare Research. We have a number of publicly available databases/collections, as well as our new(ish) general purpose data repository (https://datastore.landcareresearch.co.nz). Our data management policy references NZDIMP. I think a key point is recognition that not all data providers are equal, so I don't think a one size fits all application of ODC is desirable/practical.

CF

Cam Findlay Wed 7 Sep 2016 12:45AM

Welcome @sophielafayette @juliancarver @kayscarlet @aaronmcglinchy :smiley:

DU

[deactivated account] Thu 8 Sep 2016 10:24PM

Kia Ora! I'm Wei Ji Leong, GIS Analyst at e-Spatial and heavy user of LINZ's geospatial datasets. Great to see lots of good discussions going on. I've recently attended the Open Source/Open Society 2016 conference last month and am keen on getting more involved in the Open Data community space.

DR

Dan Randow Mon 12 Sep 2016 5:50AM

Kia ora, tatou,

I am working with @rstewartallen @camfindlay1 and @amelialoye to hear people's views about the ODC. I'll be facilitating three face to face workshops, and co-facilitating the teleconference but will pop in here from time to time as well.

I have been around open data since the ninjas first formed to lead this. I have been involved with biodiversity data wrangling community and good data management practices.

My role will not be to express a view but to help make sense of the implications of adopting the Charter.

MM

Mike McMurtry Thu 15 Sep 2016 3:55AM

Tēnā koutou katoa,
I'm Mike McMurtry, Senior Environmental Specialist with the RIMU (Resarch and Evaluation Unit) of Auckland Council. I'm fizzing about open data, and data federation on a national and international scale... especially biodata. We're doing some, but we can do so much more!

CF

Cam Findlay Thu 15 Sep 2016 8:28PM

Kia ora @mikemcmurtry welcome!

Good to have some more Local Government representation in the discussions here. If you have any thing you are interested in raising from a LG perspective feel free to start a new thread. :thumbsup:

LG

Lillian Grace Fri 16 Sep 2016 12:59AM

Kia ora koutou,

I'm CEO of Figure.NZ, a social enterprise working to create a data democracy in NZ - we care heaps about making data something that everyone can use. I'll familiarise myself with what's already been written before sharing my thoughts.

Cheers,
Lillian

Note: Figure.NZ is my main focus, but disclosure of other things I'm involved in... Data Futures Partnership Working Group, Open Government Partnership Expert Advisory Panel, and boards of Te Pūnaha Matatini and NZ Innovation Partnership.

CF

Cam Findlay Fri 16 Sep 2016 3:25AM

Welcome @lilliangrace1

KB

Keitha Booth Wed 28 Sep 2016 5:29PM

Hi, all. I am Keitha Booth, Interim Public Lead for Creative Commons Aotearoa New Zealand. We have an interest in the discussion about the Open Data Charter and the 2011 NZ Data and Information Management Principles (NZDIMP).

In particular we support New Zealand all of government information and data policy continuing to explictly endorse open licensing. This is in line with the Open Data Charter and picks up on the NZDIMP Reusable Principle stating that "copyright works are licensed for re-use, and open access to and re-use of non-copyright materials is enabled, in accordance with the New Zealand Government Open Access and Licensing framework." This is also in line with the detailed Policy Principles in the New Zealand Government Open Acess and Licensing framework and government's adoption of Creative Commons licences when agencies release contents for re-use.

We also support retention of the concepts of ownership, stewardship and custodianship of all government-held information. Examples would be unpublished manuscripts, documents, records, images, collections, personal and restricted information and data as well as open data. As these concepts and the details set out in the Reusable NZDIMP principle have been incorporated in many agencies' information strategies, we submit that an updated policy must continue to embrace all government held information and data.

We also support retention of language in the New Zealand policy that retains a direct link to the Privacy and Official Information Acts. The 'readily available' NZDIMP Principle uses the words in the purpose statement of the Official Information Act and the 'closed' NZDIMP principle uses the words from the purpose statement of the Privacy Act. We would like these high level statements to continue and we support them being supplemented by practical guidance but not being replaced. It is an opportunity to be more explicit about their source to avoid future questions about their language.

We also support a new principle stating that government-held information and data are free of charge.

Your current work and engagement with civil society and bodies like Creative Commons Aotearoa NZ is applauded. It is a great opportunity to build on, not diminish, what was achieved by the three policies in 2010 and 2011. It can also leverage all subsequent open policy, eg the Open Data Charter, and the Open Governent Partnership.

Thanks for the opportunity to offer our support.

Best wishes

Keitha

KT

Kerry Tankard Thu 29 Sep 2016 8:55PM

Hi, I'm Kerry Tankard.

I've an interest in open gov as an activist who has done a lot of work around peace & demilitarisation. I have some understandings of the ways that military & intelligence departments of gov use 'big data' to control citizenry, not always within the legal boundaries set by various legislative frameworks.

I've also recently retrained in policy analysis, and have used those skills in writing and submitting to Parliamentary Select Committees on Bills currently before the House, which attempt to broaden information sharing & profiling of citizens, not always in their best interests.

I have family members who write code, commercially & within secure gov contracts. I am basically a bureaucrat who can 'speak geek', and translate 'what needs to be done' in policy terms, via the mechanisms we have at our disposal.

I have participated in many NGO and activist collectives that have campaigned on many issues, over the past seventeen years, and I politically align with GPANZ. I am firmly in favour of transparency and accountability in government, and systems that enable and empower citizens. I do not see these features present in our current government.

AW

aimee whitcroft Thu 29 Sep 2016 10:30PM

Hi all! I'm aimee whitcroft. I'm a keen open data/open gov/civic tech advocate, based in Wellington (NZ).

I'm also a freelancer - day job involves working with central government on large web projects (generally) as a plain language and informational structure expert, and working with local governments around NZ on service design.

My free time's spent doing things like running GovHack NZ (national open data/open gov hackathon), helping out (mentoring & comms) at various Startup Weekends, and working to build a civic tech community here in NZ.