Wed 1 May 2013 4:55PM

Basic principles for a political ("pirate") party

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Basic Principles

Section 1: Indians are equal before the law and in their dealings with the State
Section 2: Patents should be abolished
Section 3: Copyright should be reformed
Section 4: The State should not interfere in a citizens private affairs or monitor their personal communications .
Section 5: Resort to violence to enforce a citizen's basic right's is to be strictly abjured till all other means and remedies have been exhausted.
Section 6: Tyranny and oppression shall not be countenanced.


Murali R Thu 2 May 2013 3:35PM

why are point 5 and 6 in this list


[email protected] Thu 2 May 2013 5:12PM

As a counterpoint to those other idiots and their "frozen" principles.


Poll Created Fri 3 May 2013 12:17AM

Adopt the basic principles Closed Mon 6 May 2013 7:02AM

I agree that the following principles may be incorporated within the Basic Principles of the proposed Pirate Party of India

1: Patents should be abolished
2: Copyright should be reformed
3 The State should not interfere in a citizens private affairs or monitor their personal communications.


Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 100.0% 6 AG T KAF SR MR J
Abstain 0.0% 0  
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 6 PP BMC KI S FN NG

6 of 12 people have voted (50%)


Fri 3 May 2013 6:44AM

we're backing you on copyright reforms


Alexander Gounder
Fri 3 May 2013 1:04PM

Equality is a good point and I accept all

Further the Right to Use Violence in extreme end points on tyranny are good additions. In case of State emergency which is a probability with desperate people in power losing ground.. this will guide us.


kshytia ali fakr
Fri 3 May 2013 5:38PM

Absolutely agree with all these points. These are the core principles of any pirate party. Caveat: (Substantial) abolishing the patent system


Murali R
Sun 5 May 2013 9:51AM

I agree with points 1 - 4, but would like more discussion on points 5 and 6. So I too agree with points 2, 3 and 4 which are being voted now..


James Fri 3 May 2013 6:43AM

As anyone who has downloaded music from the internet will attest, record companies have been gouging us for years. When Pirate Party USA stopped them in SOPA last year it showed everybody that enough is enough and they can be stopped. So Hell Yes we support this.


TheDentist Fri 3 May 2013 10:19AM

I really dont get last two points.
@sroy.mb this is a political party not HRA.
You cant put in points like that. This is not war. Not yet.


Blaise M Crowly Fri 3 May 2013 11:19AM

HRA is dead, get over it. New age new problems, new solutions. :p


[email protected] Fri 3 May 2013 3:24PM

@thedentist As I clarified earlier, the only reason points 5 and 6 are in here is because Blaise and Praveen insist that the Pirate Party MUST be non-violent and everybody MUST be Gandhian.

I would have discussed it peacefully(!) on the other sub-group (but they made it a pre-condition that only Gandhians can speak / vote there)

PS: If you see the proposal under vote here (on the right) , the last 2 points are not being voted on, as yet. Its also not about HRA. These issues are not a priority for HRA. In any case the last 2 points are not a HRA thing but a UN sanctioned thing (direct lift).


TheDentist Sat 4 May 2013 4:25PM

Although I have agreed, but i will be decreasing my participation with PPIN gradually.
I thought the broken group dynamics in the Party was something that could be fixed. But Internet is a poor medium for that. The only thing i can propose now is that @sroymb and @blaisemcrowly (and others) meet in real life and sort (read as shout) it out.
On the Internet, we dumb ourselves down to insults. Its becoming a common phenomenon (not just this group). And the problem, of course, is that people of India adopt Internet without adopting its culture.
So meet in real life, once the differences are out of the way, you guys can move forward.

Wish you all good luck


[email protected] Sat 4 May 2013 6:00PM

@thedentist I think many of us will be joining you. Its the dumb ones who insist that everything must be dumbed down to their level. I really don't see the point of meeting Blaise. My intention was to keep this movement on course for the Pirate movement.

I didn't want to say this earlier, but there is a "seeding" force (!) which is stamping out these "parties" on a cookie cutter basis all over India. Some of them are very well funded too once they get their "presence" up and running.


[email protected] Sat 4 May 2013 8:00PM

Please read your email of March 23 and the following quote "If we get this initiatives moving, I will propose to freeze the current constitution and structure and this can be a real restart from scratch as equals".
Where have all those brave words gone ?