Introductions

Welcome new people! If you feel so moved, you can introduce yourselves here, optional of course.... :)

I love the spirit of this @olisb thanks for posting. At the same time there's no way in this or a future life I mean to be a code hacker. When Zach/coolguy says " The future is one where technology is reclaimed by everyone; it is open and welcoming and asking to be built by hand" I absolutely get it (one of my alter egos is 'barefoot doc'. And I do have an engineering degree). But there's so much in 'modern life' that is technical and needs rebulding by hand. Myself, I'm a culture hacker - genres of communicating and collaborating, 'the dance of knowing' (code is a department of this), 'the moral economy of the crowd', commoning, facilitation . . and on, and on: all rendered pretty technical in this professionalised corporatist propertarian world. I won't write my own apps, translate protocols into working code, run my own server (DAT maybe yes?) or maintain a presence in gitHub, any more than I'll grow my own cabbages, bake my own bread and cook my own medicinal herbs. I'm just very happy if there are kind devs who will carefully build platforms on ActivityPub within the OAE under OpenValue. Etc. These infrastructures are vital for achieving all the OTHER technical handmade things for living and working in a commons of commons. Right on Zach! Strength to the Scuttleverse!

Not sure how I found this, or where exactly to repost it but here seems appropriate as it is the best intro to what we are trying to do here, there, and everywhere, that I have read in a long time - https://coolguy.website/writing/the-future-will-be-technical/index.html
Cool to see @bobhaugen get namechecked in 'requirements' too ;)
It's a quick read and highly worth the time.

Reminder to new people: we have this lovely Introductions thread and would be happy and interested if you introduced yourself and what you are interested in and/or working on that fits into OAE somewhere...

Hi again @christopher7 - I ran through your Prezzie - thanks for sharing that. It does sound a little like you are angry at Holo for loss of employment and using your internal knowledge to try and do them reputational damage. It is true that they have taken on a huge challenge - essentially re-designing the internet - and I am sure there would be disagreements in any software development team which is trying to do that, since to be effective a project of that nature has to follow a certain vision, or it will get lost in divergence... It's hard to comment about anyone getting "fired" without knowing the details from both sides of the story - but I hope you find other work building another part of the OAE somewhere...
best,
Oli

Holo is one of the most impressive projects I have ever seen - and I've been looking since 2004. People here might enjoy the 2 interviews I did with Matthew Schutte from the Holo team - which explain some of the principles behind Holochain and Host and where they are going with it https://open.coop/2018/06/14/holochain-perfect-framework-decentralised-cooperation-scale/

I have seen no evidence at all that there is any "vendor lock in" (especially since I can run my open Holochain/s with whoever I chose in my own network - without requiring any central authority, by simply using the Holochain - open source code) and @christopher7 I would be interested to see how you can demonstrate it is a dead end? It's always better to back up claims like that, don't you think?

Tough stuff. I'm not deep enough into the architecture after making a brief walk-through, but I understood some of the issues in there. Wonder whether they choose to do "difficult"(?) business practises by design - or whether the task at hand is just too big, their priorities are set in a way so they can't spend time on dealing with these issues by now. At the very least, firing people who provide critical input seems a rather bad move.

I was the core team from within a month of the start of the project. lol. they are I their "third" core team now. since they fire anyone with industry experience and morals.

here is the breakdown of their software https://prezi.com/view/NvRAZ35fln9i70V3YCrl/
I tried very hard to address this, but since it is deliberate policy, I was driven out of the organisation.

can't really overstate how their public face is different to their corporate internals

I don't agree with this characterization. I know the core team pretty well and if you follow their decade-long work you'll probably change your opinion.

Hmmm... Doesn't sound all too helpful then. I was still digging through the *chain stuff on their website.