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Wed 29 Jan 2014 12:44PM

Tagging people in photos

DU Itai Public Seen by 148

Hi all, my first post here.
I talked about photos in general in the development Google group but I would like to focus here on tagging people (contacts) in individual photos in Diaspora. I'm surprised this subject hasn't come up (from what I could find) - I think photos are basically what drives social networks, and tagging encourages people to share and comment on them. To make Diaspora truly social it is a must IMHO. Currently many people upload artistic photos but not so much of their friends, vacations, etc. For anyone coming from Facebook, even if he is aware of its big shortcomings, the lack of this feature will be very noticeable and may be a "deal breaker". I'm not a dev myself (I do have some website admin and setup experience) but I would like to see this being added, maybe even given a high priority. What do you think?

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Sebas Pedersen Sat 1 Feb 2014 1:28PM

@itai Yes, I do see your suggestion as an intermediate and feasible position. Although I must say that the possibility of being tagged by others should be disable by default, and that is a point I consider central and very important, and not just a matter of policy of use.

SVB

Steffen van Bergerem Sat 1 Feb 2014 8:55PM

I don't think that we need that feature but here is an idea to solve the privacy issue if anyone would like to implement it:

When implementing this feature we have to deal with "bad pods" which could allow tagging users without their permission. Therefore users should only be able to tag themselves in photos. They are able to add a tag but there is no way to associate another user with that tag so the only user that is associated with that tag is the user who added it.

We could allow contacts to send a "message" to a user and ask him to tag himself on a photo. We could even implement a feature "automatically add a tag if a contact suggests it" but IMO it should be always the user who tags himself.

DU

Itai Sun 2 Feb 2014 7:47PM

When implementing this feature we have to deal with “bad pods” which could allow tagging users without their permission. Therefore users should only be able to tag themselves in photos.

@steffenvanbergerem, I don't understand - if allowing to be tagged by others is a user setting how is the pod relevant?

We could allow contacts to send a “message” to a user and ask him to tag himself on a photo.

That's the option to be tagged by others after own authorization :)

SVB

Steffen van Bergerem Sun 2 Feb 2014 10:38PM

@itai This is an important implementation detail. When you are able to tag a contact in a photo then you can modify your pod's code to do that without the contact's permission. When you are just able to add a tag but not to add an associated user to that tag then you are the only user who could be associated with that tag.

DU

Itai Mon 3 Feb 2014 4:07PM

@steffenvanbergerem, If I you understood correctly:
1. My suggesion: User A "tags" user B in a photo. User B set his options to be tagged only after authorization, he sees the photo and authorizes, so he is tagged in the photo.
2. Your suggestion: User A "tags" user B in a photo. User B receives a special 'message' to tag himself, and does so.

Security and privacy wise these seem the same to to me, except that in option 2 user B needs a few more clicks to actually tag himself, instead of just clicking 'authorize'. If someone goes the length of changing the code to tag users without authorization he could also do it option 2.
And one could just send a private message and ask someone to tag himself.

SVB

Steffen van Bergerem Mon 3 Feb 2014 4:41PM

@itai As I said this is an (important) implementation detail. In both cases the user experience could be basically the same. The "special message" shouldn't be a regular private message. It could be something like a notification and when the user agrees he is automatically tagged in the photo. Like I said this is just about who is able to tag someone. I'll try to explain that:

option 1:
User A: asks for authorization
User B: accepts
User A: adds tag

option 2:
User A: asks user B to tag himself
User B: tags himself (automatically)

When choosing option 2 we don't have to implement any authorization process and we don't have to think about how to prevent User A from tagging User B without his permission.

DU

Itai Mon 3 Feb 2014 4:58PM

OK I understand, so user experience for user B would be the same - no need to manually tag from his perspective, just 'authorize'. Sounds good to me.

DU

Poll Created Sun 9 Feb 2014 4:32PM

Tagging ourselves in photos, and allowing contacts to ask us to be tagged Closed Wed 19 Feb 2014 8:09PM

Outcome
by Itai Tue 25 Apr 2017 5:16AM

Tagging people in photos shall not be implemented as suggested here. Since the majority which turned it down is not very big, I may make a revised proposal based on further input. Thank you for the feedback.

So after everyone's input my suggestion is as follows:
1. We will be able to tag ourselves in photos uploaded by us, or uploaded by others and visible to us.
2. Our contacts will be able to send us a special request to tag ourselves in photos visible to both of us. When "accepting" this request, we will become tagged in that photo (i.e tagging would be still initiated from our side for privacy reasons).
3. In photos we will only see tagged people if they are contacts of us.
4. There will a user option to disable tagging requests from others (off by default).

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 30.3% 10 JR TS N DU N M KAK V DU CK
Abstain 30.3% 10 F H ME R SM SVB S MM D DU
Disagree 33.3% 11 FS G T RS- CG F W DB MP R SP
Block 6.1% 2 S A
Undecided 0% 129 JL BK ST MS TS AA S CB HF BO JH DM GC JH M EG G AX PC PP

33 of 162 people have participated (20%)

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Rich
Abstain
Sun 9 Feb 2014 8:45PM

Point # 3 is critical in this proposal.

D

dremodaris
Agree
Mon 10 Feb 2014 5:13PM

Seems low priority though...

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