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Fri 22 Sep 2017 2:12PM

Letter to international societies

VA Vincent Acary Public Seen by 533

The purpose of this thread is to write a letter to international societies (IUTAM, EUROMECH,...) to raise awareness among the communities in Mechanics about epi-journal publications. All of you are invited to comments and interesting points.

For Overlay Journals in Mechanics

PROBLEM
How is all this possible? Tomorrow, researchers will have to pay in order to publish! The Gold Open Access model with Article Processing Charge (APC) seems to expand slowly in our community. This publication process uses a business model based on individual articles for which their authors pay a specific fee for publication [1].

PUBLIC FINANCES
It will however have dramatic consequences on universities' and research institutes' budgets, and more generally on public finances. For instance in France, CNRS currently spends about M€15/year in library resources, amount that would nicely reach M€95/year in case Gold Access with APC becomes the preferred avenue for publishing (see [2]). Moreover, the H2020 program, which enforces open access, has the harmful effect of promoting this model since APC are eligible expenses to be listed in proposals. This situation is not sustainable. A completely free open access for the authors and readers is a viable alternative.

OPEN ACCESS AND EPI-JOURNALS
As our colleagues in mathematics have already understood, Overlay Journals (also called Epi-journals or Diamond Open Access) are the way to go! Overlay journals are purely open access electronic journals solely fed by articles that are deposited on open archives (arXiv, HAL, engrXiv...) and not already published elsewhere. The review procedure, undertaken by the editorial team of the overlay journal together with designated reviewers, is of high quality (see [3] for more details). This virtuous framework involves a minimal cost to society and taxpayers while publications (and possibly attendant data) are always openly accessible on the long term. Technical challenges are minimal since appropriate platforms already exist. As an example, Episciences.org [4] provides a technical support for peer-reviewing activities which are supervised by editorial boards. To summarize, epi-journals add value to open archives by assigning a scientific caution to the accepted papers. Other benefits of free open access are summarized in Figure 1 (see below).

Existing examples of such overlay-journals are available at the episciences.org project webpage supported by the CCSD, or http://www.emis.de/journals/.

AND THE MECHANICS COMMUNITY?
It is now critical that the mechanics community thinks about a full open access model to publish the outcomes of research, and more specifically about the creation of Overlay Journals in various subfields of Mechanics. Lately, this question generated a strong interest as it is witnessed by the fruitful discussion on Loomio, an online tool increasing transparency and inclusion, to reach decisions (see [5] to get invited).

NEXT STEPS AND QUESTIONS TO THE SOCIETY
An international editorial team should now be created. It is highly recommended that Scientific Societies (EUROMECH, IUTAM...) get involved in the process to support these novel ideas and wind of change able to completely redraw the arcane of publishing.

We would like the point of view of the society on the following questions:

Would the society position itself as a proponent of alternative publication processes based on epi-journals?
Would the society be able to support an initiative for creating an epi-journal in Mechanics?
Would the society be able to suggest members to the editorial board of the epi-journal to be created?
Would the society be willing to help implement the launch of the such a journal by encouraging the submission of papers after international conferences and workshop administered by the society?

On behalf of the Loomio members supporting overlay journal in mechanics [5],
Vincent Acary, INRIA, France
Mathias Legrand, McGill Uninversity, Canada

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_processing_charge
[2] http://www.cnrs.fr/dist/z-outils/documents/Distinfo2/DISTetude_4.pdf
[3] http://discreteanalysisjournal.com/articles and its announcement by Nature https://www.nature.com/news/leading-mathematician-launches-arxiv-overlay-journal-1.18351
[4] https://www.episciences.org/?lang=en
[5]
https://www.loomio.org/invitations/aa0a97be9a80ba509623

More details are given in the following manifest.
https://www.loomio.org/d/qiepDOA2/manifest-for-an-epi-journal-

VA

Vincent Acary Fri 22 Sep 2017 2:32PM

A possibility could be to add the manifest in appendix of the letter. For that, we need to complete it before.
https://www.loomio.org/d/qiepDOA2/manifest-for-an-epi-journal-

J

JPM Sat 23 Sep 2017 5:36PM

I believe that the first part of the letter should be more descriptive regarding what is gold open access, apc etc.. because many of the community members are not aware of these concepts.

The same for "overlay journal" :-) A simpler description is necessary: an epi journal contains papers that:
1- are already freely available on green open archive such as Hal, arXiV etcc
2- have been submitted to a strict peer review process orgaized by the journal editor
3- are collected in the journal web with links to the open-access repository

This ensures free and permanent dissemination togehter with reduced cost for the community (the cost of sustaining a free open archive are much lower than any subscription price to a single journal!).

I wil drop the reference to H2020 and don't forget that IFToMM should also be a recipient of the letter. Thanks for the effort

MM

Maurine Montagnat Mon 25 Sep 2017 7:05AM

Hello
I agree with the previous comment about the necessity of explaining a little more the epi journal procedure. It sounds very important to reassure about the quality of the review process. Otherwise it seems very fine to me, and a very good initiative. Thanks a lot!

AT

anders thorin Mon 25 Sep 2017 2:11PM

"It is now time for the Mechanics community to think about this overlay journal framework": isn't think about a bit weak? Suggestion: implement.

VAY

Vladislav A. Yastrebov Tue 21 Nov 2017 10:10AM

I've noticed only yesterday that since January 2017 APS starts to charge authors with a fee for publication in Physical Review journals :

Phys Rev Lett $765 - $955
https://journals.aps.org/prl/authors/publication-charges-physical-review-letters

Other Physical Review A-E $1540/article, $960/rapid communication
https://journals.aps.org/authors/publication-charges-physical-review

It's a pity.

VA

Vincent Acary Mon 4 Dec 2017 7:44AM

Dear colleague,
We plan to send this letter next week to the board of EUROMECH and IUTAM. Please feel free to amend.
Vincent.

LS

Loic Salles Tue 5 Dec 2017 9:51AM

It can be sent also to ECCOMAS and IFTOMM (important scientific society in East Europe)

VA

Vincent Acary Tue 5 Dec 2017 2:50PM

Good point. JPM has already mentioned IFTOMM. We will do it

FG

François Gibier Mon 4 Dec 2017 8:36AM

Hello,
I added "with APC" after Gold Open Access model in the first and second paragraphs because "Gold Open Access" only refers to a publication freely accessible to all readers and to not presuppose the business model which is behind. Among more than 10 000 journals listed in the DOAJ, only a third uses the APC model while the others (over 6 500 journals) have a different business model that doesn't charge the author !

VAY

Vladislav A. Yastrebov Thu 7 Dec 2017 6:39AM

Could we make our group indexable by google?
Could we also make it open for viewing without registration?

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