Direct Democracy
Should pirates in the US go along with European parties and back Direct Democracy? If so, in what form?
Nick Wed 24 Apr 2013 2:56AM
Yeah, im not quite sure on form either... anyone have any ideas?
Alex M (Coyo) Wed 24 Apr 2013 5:17AM
I have some ideas.
Poll Created Wed 24 Apr 2013 5:22AM
Direct Electronic Democracy via P2P Overlay Closed Wed 24 Apr 2013 7:21AM
premature, lack of staff or funding.
We should design, specify, implement, and standardize a peer-2-peer overlay network protocol to collectively discuss and decide policy directly, with many of the nodes hosted by municipal, county and state government networks and systems, but with the majority of nodes hosted by volunteers either at home or within independent data-centers.
We should use a fluid and accountable decentralized network protocol to govern everyday policy-making.
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| Undecided | 0% | 10 |
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Alex M (Coyo)
Wed 24 Apr 2013 5:22AM
I think direct electronic democracy with no representatives and a censorship-resistant yet publically-supported overlay network is the ideal approach.
Lindsay-Anne Gorski
Wed 24 Apr 2013 5:35AM
We don't have the staff nor resources in national to handle such a request right now.
The idea is good and well-intentioned, though.
Nick
Wed 24 Apr 2013 5:41AM
Agree with Kusanagi. We can't invest resources into developing stuff like this, at least not yet. We could potentially endorse current systems at least for use on municipal and county levels (Liquid Feedback, loomio et al.)
Nick
Wed 24 Apr 2013 5:41AM
Agree with Kusanagi. We can't invest resources into developing stuff like this, at least not yet. We could potentially endorse current systems at least for use on municipal and county levels (Liquid Feedback, loomio, et al.)
Zacqary Adam Green
Wed 24 Apr 2013 7:07AM
Alex, I think YOU should design, specify, implement, and standardize a peer-2-peer overlay network protocol to collectively discuss and decide policy directly. No need to vote on it. Just assemble your team and do it.
Nick Wed 24 Apr 2013 5:32AM
ONE BIG CONCERN: How will it be secured? Eventually it would be nice to have the entire country running on Direct Democracy (IMO), but of course a country of this size and power, along with a majority of everyone in the world having opinions on it operations.... HUGE target for hacking.
Alex M (Coyo) Wed 24 Apr 2013 7:20AM
https://github.com/coyotama/fennec/blob/master/README.md done. i'll by adding to that repo over the next few months.
Amanda Johnson Wed 24 Apr 2013 1:26PM
What forms of direct democracy are already out there and how are they being used?
Benjamin Lyon Fri 26 Apr 2013 3:15AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy
Everyone might want to take a look at this. Especially the part on the United States.
Amanda Johnson Fri 26 Apr 2013 2:29PM
Hmmm, it is important to protect the minority voice. I feel like I like representational government but our system is broken. I would rather fix the problems than completely scrap it but i'm not sure. It does all depend on how strong and centralized the government is as well. For example: If we all lived in independent communes the problems with direct democracy would get much smaller.
GI Jack Sat 27 Apr 2013 4:33AM
yes, in the form of the 28th amendment, calling for ballot initiatives to be added to the US constitution.
Section 1:
In addition to the Rights of congress to pass bills, the Bills shall be presented to public and be subject to vote.
public proposals may be either initiated by congress with a %50 vote in both houses, or by the people, by petition, constituting a number of signatures not more than %10 of the populace in at least three fourths of all states.
Section 2:
The wording of public bills shall not use language judged to be above "11th grade" American English, nor shall contain more than 1,000 words.
Section 3:
For a proposal to become law, it shall require a two thirds super majority. The except is to repeal legislation enacted by Representatives, which shall require a %60 majority.
Rought Draft open to comments, modifications, and counter-proposals.
Amanda Johnson · Wed 24 Apr 2013 2:45AM
Absolutely, not sure about form.