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Quarterly Project 2021Q1 ideas

Cj MaloneCj Malone Fri 11 Dec 2020 8:58AMPublicSeen by 69

It's almost time to make a decision on the next QP, please post your ideas here.

I think projects that can be mapped remotely are the way to go.

Yorvik Prestigitor

Yorvik PrestigitorFri 11 Dec 2020 1:31PM

Could we map Community Centres and similar public buildings eg village halls? This would be a useful resource especially as many commercial online maps focus on commercial buildings. We could also combine this with mapping the buildings where Polling Stations are situated which would also be useful to do before the next election (they often use the same venues again and again), I don't know if the governments list of polling station venues is opensource. I wouldn't map them as polling stations just make sure the building the polling station will be in is on the map.

Robert Whittaker

Robert WhittakerSun 13 Dec 2020 8:06AM

I like the idea of green spaces. There are some data sets that might be useful: OS Open Green Space (although not always accurate) and Natural England's CRoW Access Land data. Both of these can be viewed on https://raggedred.net/openover/ .

Also if we did have this as a project, I wonder if we could persuade Fields in Trust to let us have access to their database of playing fields that they protect. There's a search feature on their site at http://www.fieldsintrust.org/ but no bulk download available.

Brian Prangle

Brian PrangleFri 18 Dec 2020 2:54PM

How about adding buildings and landuse (postcodes maybe too?) at the ends of all those service roads that Amazon Logistics have been adding?

Cj Malone

Cj MaloneFri 18 Dec 2020 11:06PM

Amazon is intending on working on building details themselves starting in 2021, I don't know the details but hopefully they'll do some decent work. We could try and time a QP with them. Does anyone have a contact at Amazon?

I do like the idea of checking landuse=construction, or using data from Barratts and equivalent to help ensure OSM is as up to date as we can be.

Gareth L

Gareth LWed 6 Jan 2021 2:35PM

I also think building outlines are a good idea as they enable + refine a lot of other quarterly project topics.

We’ve had a huge step up in aerial imagery in the past year. Could the land registry tiles data help with this too?

OSM-ie have made excellent use of the tasking manager to focus building mapping in specified areas. That approach could help direct and motivate.

Additionally, it should be rather suitable considering the various restrictions across the UK so that those shielding can participate too.

Cj Malone

Cj MaloneMon 4 Jan 2021 9:21PM

I'll start a poll in the next few days, but until then does anyone have any more ideas? Or any previous proposals that we should be considering?

https://www.loomio.org/d/SFX4HT8L/q4-quarterly-project-2020-ideas

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:UK_Quarterly_Project

Edward Bainton

Edward BaintonTue 5 Jan 2021 8:13AM

I'll send this round the Talk-GB list, too, but on the strength of a conversation with a Tesco delivery man yesterday, new housing developments would get a vote from me - with a view to persuading more delivery firms of the value of open data.

Cj Malone

Cj MaloneSun 10 Jan 2021 5:46PM

I would be really interested in knowing which delivery companies use OSM. Amazon obviously, but do Hermes too? Mapbox customers do, like dpd. I'm pretty sure PALLEX partners do too. I've no idea about the supermarkets, but I'll have to start asking them when I see them.

Robert Whittaker

Robert WhittakerTue 5 Jan 2021 11:57AM

With the new lockdown just announced, perhaps a focus on local green spaces and cut-through paths that could be used by people for exercise near their homes would be good. This would be an opportunity to try to get some publicity and attract new mappers, long the lines of "help us map the paths you like to use and the places you go to, so they're available to everyone".

Humez

HumezWed 6 Jan 2021 12:01PM

I know solar panels have been mentioned before. There are a number of things that could be done to improve the solar panel data on OSM such as turning nodes into mapped areas, updated tags to ensure the number of panels are included, map new solar panels ect. This mostly, if not all, could be done remotely to ensure that no-one is breaking any 'laws' to survey.

Also, I know that the solar data on OSM is very useful to some organisations.

Cj Malone

Preferred Q1 project

dot vote by Cj Malone Closed Wed 13 Jan 2021 5:03PM

Outcome
by Cj Malone Thu 14 Jan 2021 1:16AM

Well, with an even split between Green Spaces and Buildings, we've decided that Q1 will be Green Spaces. Q2 will probably be Buildings unless something else more timely comes up.

I'm setting up some MapRoulette challenges here, more ideas and data are welcome.

Results

ResultsOption% of pointsPointsMeanVoters
Green spaces (Parks, allotments, play grounds, etc)2821126
Buildings (New residantial areas + areas that are currently lacking)2821126
Vaccination centres (Micro mapping area + adding POIs)1310026
Revisit solar panels (Notes -> Ways, more coverage, more detailed tagging)118026
EV charging points86026
Community Centres/Polling Stations75026
Public transport (stops + routes)54026
Disabled parking11026
Undecided0064

31 of 95 votes cast (32% participation)

Gareth L

Gareth LSun 10 Jan 2021 5:59PM

3 - Buildings (New residantial areas + areas that are currently lacking)
0 - Vaccination centres (Micro mapping area + adding POIs)
0 - Community Centres/Polling Stations
0 - Revisit solar panels (Notes -> Ways, more coverage, more detailed tagging)
0 - EV charging points
0 - Public transport (stops + routes)
0 - Green spaces (Parks, allotments, play grounds, etc)
0 - Disabled parking

Buildings, if we can use task manager, makes most of the other topics easier to work on in the future and is a lockdown friendly activity.

Robert Whittaker

Robert WhittakerSun 10 Jan 2021 5:59PM

2 - Buildings (New residantial areas + areas that are currently lacking)
1 - Green spaces (Parks, allotments, play grounds, etc)
0 - Community Centres/Polling Stations
0 - Revisit solar panels (Notes -> Ways, more coverage, more detailed tagging)
0 - EV charging points
0 - Public transport (stops + routes)
0 - Disabled parking
0 - Vaccination centres (Micro mapping area + adding POIs)

Buildings is a good remote mapping task for lockdown/winter. Green spaces is potentially useful for people looking for exercise locations.

Humez

HumezSun 10 Jan 2021 5:59PM

3 - Revisit solar panels (Notes -> Ways, more coverage, more detailed tagging)
0 - Vaccination centres (Micro mapping area + adding POIs)
0 - Buildings (New residantial areas + areas that are currently lacking)
0 - Community Centres/Polling Stations
0 - EV charging points
0 - Public transport (stops + routes)
0 - Green spaces (Parks, allotments, play grounds, etc)
0 - Disabled parking

As the UK is trying become csrbon neutral I think that by mapping out solar panels will help other organisations see how much renewable energy is being produced

Edward Bainton

Edward BaintonSun 10 Jan 2021 5:59PM

1 - Buildings (New residantial areas + areas that are currently lacking)
1 - Community Centres/Polling Stations
1 - Vaccination centres (Micro mapping area + adding POIs)
0 - Public transport (stops + routes)
0 - Green spaces (Parks, allotments, play grounds, etc)
0 - Disabled parking
0 - Revisit solar panels (Notes -> Ways, more coverage, more detailed tagging)
0 - EV charging points

Why those dots: I want to see OSM be relevant to people who aren't mappers, and serve mapping needs that the commercial maps don't. All these seem to do that.

Why not others: My are is well covered for green space and transport. EV charging points is a good idea, but I've run out of dots, and less urgent while we're not going anywhere. Ditto disabled parking. Solar panels really bore me - I'm sure it's an excellent idea for many reasons, but all of them unknown to me!

Brian Prangle

Brian PrangleSun 10 Jan 2021 5:59PM

1 - Buildings (New residantial areas + areas that are currently lacking)
0 - Vaccination centres (Micro mapping area + adding POIs)
0 - Community Centres/Polling Stations
0 - Revisit solar panels (Notes -> Ways, more coverage, more detailed tagging)
0 - EV charging points
0 - Public transport (stops + routes)
0 - Green spaces (Parks, allotments, play grounds, etc)
0 - Disabled parking

Differentiates osm from slower business models

Jay Turner

Jay TurnerSun 10 Jan 2021 5:59PM

1 - EV charging points
1 - Vaccination centres (Micro mapping area + adding POIs)
1 - Buildings (New residantial areas + areas that are currently lacking)
0 - Public transport (stops + routes)
0 - Green spaces (Parks, allotments, play grounds, etc)
0 - Disabled parking
0 - Community Centres/Polling Stations
0 - Revisit solar panels (Notes -> Ways, more coverage, more detailed tagging)

Vaccination sites are important but with many being pop up centres (near me anyway) it'll be hard to micromap without satellite imagery. Buildings are always important, and EVs are more popular now so charging points are a good one to work on

Stuart Ward

Stuart WardSun 10 Jan 2021 5:59PM

1 - Buildings (New residantial areas + areas that are currently lacking)
1 - Community Centres/Polling Stations
1 - Vaccination centres (Micro mapping area + adding POIs)
0 - Public transport (stops + routes)
0 - Green spaces (Parks, allotments, play grounds, etc)
0 - Disabled parking
0 - Revisit solar panels (Notes -> Ways, more coverage, more detailed tagging)
0 - EV charging points

I have been getting reading buildings mapped with house numbers, postcodes , street names, There is still lots to do here could do with some focus across the whole UK. Community Centers and Vaccination Stations are more immediately important.

Steve Doerr

Steve DoerrSun 10 Jan 2021 5:59PM

2 - Green spaces (Parks, allotments, play grounds, etc)
1 - Buildings (New residantial areas + areas that are currently lacking)
0 - Community Centres/Polling Stations
0 - Revisit solar panels (Notes -> Ways, more coverage, more detailed tagging)
0 - EV charging points
0 - Public transport (stops + routes)
0 - Disabled parking
0 - Vaccination centres (Micro mapping area + adding POIs)

These are the things that interest me.

Mat Attlee

Mat AttleeSun 10 Jan 2021 5:59PM

1 - Green spaces (Parks, allotments, play grounds, etc)
1 - Vaccination centres (Micro mapping area + adding POIs)
1 - Buildings (New residantial areas + areas that are currently lacking)
0 - Community Centres/Polling Stations
0 - Revisit solar panels (Notes -> Ways, more coverage, more detailed tagging)
0 - EV charging points
0 - Public transport (stops + routes)
0 - Disabled parking

In Hackney some streets have no buildings mapped and I spend a lot of time in green spaces

Tony Shield

Tony ShieldMon 11 Jan 2021 12:06PM

1 - Green spaces (Parks, allotments, play grounds, etc)
1 - Buildings (New residantial areas + areas that are currently lacking)
1 - Revisit solar panels (Notes -> Ways, more coverage, more detailed tagging)
0 - Community Centres/Polling Stations
0 - Disabled parking
0 - EV charging points
0 - Vaccination centres (Micro mapping area + adding POIs)
0 - Public transport (stops + routes)

Buildings & green space to continue development of the map, solar can add to new residential as many new buildings include solar as part of the specification.

Nick Ananin

Nick AnaninMon 11 Jan 2021 12:20PM

3 - Green spaces (Parks, allotments, play grounds, etc)
0 - Vaccination centres (Micro mapping area + adding POIs)
0 - Buildings (New residantial areas + areas that are currently lacking)
0 - Community Centres/Polling Stations
0 - Revisit solar panels (Notes -> Ways, more coverage, more detailed tagging)
0 - EV charging points
0 - Public transport (stops + routes)
0 - Disabled parking

 In urban settings there are lots of patches of green that are not easily designated so are missed out

Andrew Black

Andrew BlackSun 10 Jan 2021 5:59PM

3 - Green spaces (Parks, allotments, play grounds, etc)
0 - Vaccination centres (Micro mapping area + adding POIs)
0 - Buildings (New residantial areas + areas that are currently lacking)
0 - Community Centres/Polling Stations
0 - Revisit solar panels (Notes -> Ways, more coverage, more detailed tagging)
0 - EV charging points
0 - Public transport (stops + routes)
0 - Disabled parking

Can be a mixture of armchair and local walks (going on walking routes one might not normally). Also tagging for these could be rationalised

David Robinson

David RobinsonWed 13 Jan 2021 5:21AM

1 - Green spaces (Parks, allotments, play grounds, etc)
1 - Community Centres/Polling Stations
1 - Disabled parking
0 - Public transport (stops + routes)
0 - Revisit solar panels (Notes -> Ways, more coverage, more detailed tagging)
0 - EV charging points
0 - Vaccination centres (Micro mapping area + adding POIs)
0 - Buildings (New residantial areas + areas that are currently lacking)

Can be done from home, allows mapping even during lockdown restrictions

trigpoint

trigpointFri 15 Jan 2021 10:19AM

The maproulette task for playgrounds could do with a tweak. It is including skateboarding areas which are mapped as leisure=pitch sport=skateboard and therefore generating false positives.

Cj Malone

Cj MaloneFri 15 Jan 2021 4:11PM

I think I've managed to remove more than 900 tasks by conflating ways leisure=pitch sport=skateboard. Thanks.

Gregory Marler (former Director)

Gregory Marler (former Director)Thu 18 Feb 2021 6:18PM

I've done a video about the project https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vDMLLsGvZ0
It briefly mentions playgrounds but focuses on allotments in Map Roulette.