Loomio
Sun 4 Sep 2016 5:01AM

How do we make decisions together?

PJ Peter Jacobson Public Seen by 386

How will we make decisions about our community?

How will we answer questions like:
- "What is the process for new people joining?"
- "Where shall we host the next hui?"

From my thoughts and some ideas from initial conversations with folks, things that seem important in decision making are:
- Accessible for everyone to participate
- That we don't get blocked by "bureaucracy"

I have a two great friends who are interested in joining who I want to invite - I think they would be a joy to have around and could help create wonderful things with us. It's been 3 weeks, and I have no idea how to start that conversation. Perhaps this would be a good place.

Would be great for you to have a play around on this platform. If you have time, try making threads and commenting/voting/making proposals in others threads.

If you have any questions or confusions, call me (Pete) on 02040 758 702 : :smiley: :heart:

PJ

Poll Created Sun 4 Sep 2016 5:02AM

We use loomio to host our decision making process Closed Sun 4 Sep 2016 9:55AM

Outcome
by Peter Jacobson Tue 25 Apr 2017 5:49AM

We don't want to commit to using this tool yet, but may want to trial it...

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 33.3% 1 PJ
Abstain 66.7% 2 SO NL
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 51 J EC JR BM PB TB SC CT RB B SJ MY MS PM CH MJ JF GM MG LB

3 of 54 people have voted (5%)

PJ

Peter Jacobson
Agree
Sun 4 Sep 2016 5:13AM

I've used loomio a fair bit now, and it's the best way I've seen to make collaborative decisions in an open and accessible way for high participation and good quality discussion

SO

Sam O'Sullivan
Agree
Sun 4 Sep 2016 8:18AM

I've found Loomio an incredible too to make decisions with people when you can't do it in person.

NL

Nick Laurence
Abstain
Sun 4 Sep 2016 9:37AM

I like Loomio for making decisions personally and think this is a worthwhile experiment, but waiting to see what level of engagement there is. Value face-to-face over online at this stage as it serves double purpose of building whakawhanaungatanga

NL

Nick Laurence
Abstain
Sun 4 Sep 2016 9:37AM

I like Loomio for making decisions personally and think this is a worthwhile experiment, but waiting to see what level of engagement there is. Value face-to-face over online at this stage as it serves double purpose of building whanaungatanga

SO

Sam O'Sullivan
Agree
Sun 4 Sep 2016 9:53AM

I've found Loomio an incredible too to make decisions with people when you can't do it in person. However, agree with Nick that this is a decision to be made at the next Hui face-to-face. Fun to experiment!

SO

Sam O'Sullivan
Abstain
Sun 4 Sep 2016 9:53AM

I've found Loomio an incredible too to make decisions with people when you can't do it in person. However, agree with Nick that this is a decision to be made at the next Hui face-to-face. Fun to experiment!

NL

Nick Laurence Sun 4 Sep 2016 9:15AM

I'd prefer to put off the big decisions (e.g., how we add people to the network) until we have the next hui, but I like the idea of trialling Loomio as an experiment to host discussions and make some smaller decisions (e.g., when and where the next hui is). Would love to see Loomio being used by a majority of the network, it would make discussions much easier. However, also conscious that we have different levels of tech-saviness in the network and I wouldn't want Loomio to replace face-to-face conversation and phone calls, which help to build whanaungatanga, which I see as more important than decision-making at this stage.

NL

Nick Laurence Sun 4 Sep 2016 9:33AM

@petejakey Can we change the wording of the proposal to reflect that its an experiment - e.g. "We trial using Loomio to host our decision-making process"?

Also, if it's a trial, how do we know whether it's a success or not - what level of engagement would make it a success? I'd like us to still use face-to-face and phone calls to people who don't respond on Loomio in this early stage, to make sure that we don't just get the people who are comfortable with Loomio on here and contributing to discussions, and the people who aren't as comfortable not having a voice...

PJ

Poll Created Sun 4 Sep 2016 9:57AM

We trial loomio for hosting our decision making process Closed Thu 15 Sep 2016 9:01AM

We put some energy into trying Loomio as a decision making tool

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 100.0% 4 MY PJ SO NL
Abstain 0.0% 0  
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 50 J EC JR BM PB TB SC CT RB B SJ MS PM CH MJ JF GM MG LB KS

4 of 54 people have voted (7%)

SO

Sam O'Sullivan
Agree
Mon 5 Sep 2016 12:59AM

I'm really happy to trial Loomio given how successful it has been with other groups I've been a part of :)

MY

Meredith Youngson
Agree
Tue 6 Sep 2016 12:20AM

I really support trialling Loomio as a decision making tool for us - I've found it very easy and effective in another setting.

NL

Nick Laurence Tue 6 Sep 2016 3:48AM

I see a real need for Loomio with the kind of questions we have coming up in the network at the moment, support trialling this! Just want to make sure we make it as easy as possible for people to engage :)

JS

Jess Stuart Wed 5 Oct 2016 10:53PM

I agree with Nick, I've only just figured out Loomio and think it could be a great tool but we'd need the majority of the group to commit to figuring it out and using it too for it to be effective. Maybe we can do a short training on it at the next Hui so everyone can see how it works and commit to joining as agree we need a way of communicating and making decisions outside of formal meetings so we can still progress and get stuff happening.

NL

Nick Laurence Thu 6 Oct 2016 8:42PM

+1 to the idea of a short session on Loomio at the next hui - maybe we can even get someone from Loomio to come along for that. In the meantime, my opinion's evolved a little, in that I think it'd be good to use it leading up to the hui, and give people a chance to learn by doing before learning more at the hui itself. Loomio should never replace face-to-face, only fill the gaps where face-to-face isn't possible...

KM

Kate MacIntyre Fri 7 Oct 2016 5:22AM

Using loomio seems quite easy but I can tell I have stuff to learn and I was slow to come to it post the August Hui wheras I picked up Slack. And I am one of the oldies so not familiar with this software. A session would be good and Nick's suggestion of getting people using it beforehand also useful because using locks in the learning so much better. My only concern w Loomio as a vehicle currently is that it seems few of the MFC group are on it..... it would need I think to have everyone on except those who do not want to be and for them to understand that they would potentially miss out? My thoughts anyway

C

Christel Fri 7 Oct 2016 7:19AM

Have never used Loomio before and just came on it today, but loving it so far. Seems like a great platform!

NL

Nick Laurence Fri 7 Oct 2016 7:59PM

@katemacintyre Definitely agree with you there, there are about 20 of us on this Loomio channel, so only about half of who were at the hui. It's a question we're asking at the moment, around how to engage more people with Loomio - everyone has been invited via Sarrah's email, but maybe there's more we can do to make it even more accessible? Open to suggestions for how to do that? :smiley:

KM

Kate MacIntyre Fri 7 Oct 2016 8:21PM

Hi Nick
Heading out to working bee so quick reply. Has everyone engaged w the emails? Perhaps ask if there are barriers via email to get a feel for if it's just non engagement or actual barriers? :) see ya

BC

Brent Cherry Mon 10 Oct 2016 8:29PM

Just getting to grips with loomio