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Sun 16 Dec 2018 6:53PM

Blockchain. (not busy)

D dilgreen Public Seen by 126

This group is primarily a honey trap for people who want to talk about blockchain. UKMCN is NOT currently spending time thinking about blockchain. We're sure we need an effective and dynamic market first. We are confident that if we use a well-designed data architecture and build a sensible software stack that uses API calls to record transactions, we could transition to a blockchain back-end at some point if it was decided it was necessary.

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dilgreen Sun 16 Dec 2018 6:55PM

Here is a sensible article with decision approaches which help with thinking about whether blockchain might be a relevant technology: https://medium.com/@sbmeunier/when-do-you-need-blockchain-decision-models-a5c40e7c9ba1
On my reading, so far, I can't see a strong case for blockchain from any of these decision helpers.
Holochain would probably not fit into the models used here. It is perhaps more like a distributed ledger technology.

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dilgreen Sun 16 Dec 2018 6:56PM

Here is an article about Corda - a distributed ledger that is not quite a full-blown blockchain: https://medium.com/corda/what-is-corda-6417b14c8dc7

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Chris Cook Mon 17 Dec 2018 10:35AM

Dil, this recent post
http://lockstep.com.au/blog/2018/12/17/consensus
from Steve Wilson is interesting re Blockchain consensus. Also see Twitter thread
https://twitter.com/cjenscook/status/1074586217415618560

My Fintech 2.0 case is that we need people consensus, not machine consensus. I think the endgame is Stripe-style seven lines of code hard-wired in mobile devices. Chainable promises/credits are then issued and mutually agreed/accepted bilaterally with accepted P2P promises/credit obligations registered in a unique order within consensual risk/cost/surplus/data sharing 'Club Rules' which double as a 'Dot Market' Domain Server User Group.

That is pretty much the 'NewClear' Market Operating System/architecture I invented 20 years ago and documented in 2001, now recorded here
http://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Market_3.0

Naturally such a complementary system must be prototyped outside the existing system, and then link to it. I think we have an opportunity here to do a proof of concept with generic loyalty point tokens, where the key (cf Beenz & Flooz) is a non-proprietary business model and a shit-hot marketing scheme. (I reckon I have both).

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Matthew Slater Mon 14 Jan 2019 12:14AM

I know this thread is a honey trap but where else to discuss software options? Its all about the shopping and social networking experience. I invite you to consider:
http://tradeswap.net I know the guy is interested in helping
https://www.moxey.money is a cooperative barter network in Florida I think
https://www.reciprio.com/
Richard Logie GETS I guess is pretty dated by now.
https://www.sharetribe.com
Before starting these conversations though, we need to understand our functional requirements. Dil, maybe you can add to this list:
Products listed by category.
Prices in trade pounds
Members list multiple products
Max credit /debut per member, with warnings
Shipping costs.
Brokering tools
Configurable fee structures.
Product expiry date.
CMS
Automated newsletter
Mobile friendly
Affordable pricing structure

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dilgreen Wed 16 Jan 2019 2:47PM

Matt - I will start a new thread re software / tech / data structure.