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Fri 7 Nov 2014 10:59PM

diaspora* official Twitter account

JR Jason Robinson Public Seen by 44

The official project Twitter account is @joindiaspora (https://twitter.com/joindiaspora).

It is maintained by a few community members.

Discussion relating to this outreach account here.

JR

Poll Created Fri 7 Nov 2014 11:03PM

Rename diaspora* Twitter account to something else than @joindiaspora Closed Sat 22 Nov 2014 11:04PM

Outcome
by Jason Robinson Tue 25 Apr 2017 5:21AM

We will rename the account once/if a suitable name is accepted in further proposals.

As I think the main maintainer of the Twitter diaspora* account, I constantly see people confuse it with the pod joindiaspora.com.

Since this account is an official account for the project, and has no direct relation to the pod joindiaspora.com, except via history, I'm proposing renaming the account username to something else.

Changing the username will mean some people might have trouble mentioning diaspora* on Twitter. Otherwise it will have little effect.

Vote:

  • YES - change it to something else (follow up proposal to choose what it should be)
  • NO - keep as is

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 70.0% 14 JR F PP RS- S V DB A B CCH DU Y S RB-
Abstain 25.0% 5 FS JH BB DS DU
Disagree 5.0% 1 ST
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 28 RF E S AS R JD PP J NV BC M MB PG IGM R W RD S MKT MP

20 of 48 people have voted (41%)

JH

Jonne Haß
Abstain
Sat 8 Nov 2014 11:25AM

I don't think the new possible names are much of an improvement, they're longer and harder to remember. But I don't really care either.

DU

[deactivated account]
Agree
Sat 8 Nov 2014 7:25PM

cf Robin Stent's response : "From a mentioning point of view it will make much more sense for people if the name at least begins with @Diasp rather than @Join as twitter has autocomplete"

BB

Brent Bartlett
Abstain
Sat 8 Nov 2014 7:43PM

I think that a new account should be created for the Diaspora Project or Foundation, and @joindiaspora should only be used for the JD pod

DU

[deactivated account]
Abstain
Sun 9 Nov 2014 8:27PM

If anything, we should hand over / donate the @joindiaspora account to the podmin of jd.com (as that's what people are coming to that Twitter account for) and create a brand new Twitter account specifically relating to the project itself.

F

Flaburgan
Agree
Sun 9 Nov 2014 9:08PM

Let's change to @diasporafoundation to avoid confusion. We can maybe tweet first to warn users that we are going to do it.

ST

Sean Tilley
Disagree
Tue 11 Nov 2014 9:34PM

I actually think @JoinDiaspora is fine the way it is. Yeah, it can be confused for JoinDiaspora.com, but overall it describes the action of joining the platform, which itself isn't a bad thing.

FS

Florian Staudacher
Abstain
Thu 13 Nov 2014 9:07PM

I don't mind as long as we re-register the @joindiaspora account after renaming for the stated reasons

A

Asher
Agree
Thu 13 Nov 2014 9:34PM

I like the idea of having @joindiaspora for the pod and @diasporafoundation as the main account.

DS

Dennis Schubert
Abstain
Thu 13 Nov 2014 11:40PM

I agree to change the name if we can find a better name to change it to and if we don't lose the verified badge.

B

Birch**
Agree
Fri 14 Nov 2014 5:37AM

One of the biggest issues i have seen is people thinking that JoinDiaspora.com is THE pod. They see it as the twitter name and associate it with the pod they signed up with long ago and got tired of waiting for an invite from.

CCH

Charles Céleste Hutchins
Agree
Sat 15 Nov 2014 12:58PM

I also thought that twitter account was just for the one pod.

PP

Pirate Praveen
Agree
Sat 22 Nov 2014 7:20AM

it will clarify the situation

JH

Jonne Haß Fri 7 Nov 2014 11:15PM

What does rename mean? Can you change your twitter username or do you have to create a new account? What would be the possible new names?

JR

Jason Robinson Fri 7 Nov 2014 11:21PM

Changing your username will not affect your existing followers, direct messages, or @replies. Your followers will simply see a new username next to your profile photo when you update. We suggest you alert your followers before you change your username so they can direct @replies or direct messages to your new username.

From https://support.twitter.com/articles/14609-changing-your-username

So basically everything stays the same but others doing mentions will be more tricky, assuming they are used to mentioning @joindiaspora. I'm confident Twitter live search maybe helps to map username changes, that would seem logical :)

What would be the possible new names?

Will have a look at some free ones tomorrow. But I'd leave deciding on what a new name should be to a follow up proposal.

F

Flaburgan Fri 7 Nov 2014 11:41PM

Is @diaspora available?

JH

Jonne Haß Sat 8 Nov 2014 12:19AM

Well, I wouldn't agree to this proposal if there's no good name available.

DS

Dennis Schubert Sat 8 Nov 2014 12:49AM

I'm not sure. While "joindiaspora" isn't great, I don't know if it's worth loosing all the mentions from the past.

I’m confident Twitter live search maybe helps to map username changes

Just tried it.. nope. :(

@flaburgan nope.

JR

Jason Robinson Sat 8 Nov 2014 1:42AM

Some free ones:

@diasporafoundation, @diasporasoftware, @diaspora_project, @project_diaspora, @diasporasocnet

BB

Brent Bartlett Sat 8 Nov 2014 3:36AM

I definitely don't think we should kill the JD account, but there should be one for the project separate from the one for the pod.

JR

Jason Robinson Sat 8 Nov 2014 10:09AM

Brent, the @joindiaspora account is not a joindiaspora.com ( http://joindiaspora.com ) account any more - it IS the official account to promote the project as a whole.

This exactly, is the confusion that I see all the time. Though, whether which is better, keeping as is or renaming it, hard to say :)

RS-

Robin Stent - Outreach Sat 8 Nov 2014 12:23PM

I have a fair bit of experience managing twitter accounts and I think this is a sensible move.

Best practice is to rename the account then immediately register a new account under the old name so you can fill in the profile to direct people to the new name. Then post an announcement of the change.

From a mentioning point of view it will make much more sense for people if the name at least begins with @Diasp rather than @Join as twitter has autocomplete for people you follow. Old mentions won't update but if you do as above at least if people click on a mention they'll end up at the right account.

G

goob Sat 8 Nov 2014 12:29PM

I agree, there's cause for confusion here. If we can come up with a better name, it'll be worth having a vote on changing the twitter handle to that name. Until then, a vote seems a bit meaningless.

G

goob Sat 8 Nov 2014 12:31PM

I’m not sure. While “joindiaspora” isn’t great, I don’t know if it’s worth loosing all the mentions from the past.

I wouldn't worry about that. I've just checked back on an account of which I changed the handle a couple of years ago, and @mentions right back to when I opened the account now have the new handle. So it looks as though mentions in old tweets do get updated when you change a handle.

DS

Dennis Schubert Sat 8 Nov 2014 7:27PM

Somebody should check if we'd lose our "verified" badge during a name change.

DU

[deactivated account] Sun 9 Nov 2014 11:44AM

this account is an official account for the project, and has no direct relation to the pod joindiaspora.com

So if you did rename it would this account then solely be used for the foundation and the pod would need to go setup a new Twitter account? (if the podmin wished to do so)

G

goob Sun 9 Nov 2014 12:24PM

So if you did rename it would this account then solely be used for the foundation and the pod would need to go setup a new Twitter account? (if the podmin wished to do so)

How's that different from the existing situation? That account was always a project account, never a pod account (although the founders might have used it for pod news on occasion during the early days).

JR

Jason Robinson Sun 9 Nov 2014 6:08PM

@goob

Until then, a vote seems a bit meaningless.

What point is there to discuss names before deciding to change it? :)

JR

Jason Robinson Sun 9 Nov 2014 6:11PM

@rich1 the current account is not used by or for joindiaspora.com. Exactly why I created this proposal, there is constant confusion about this..

JR

Jason Robinson Sun 9 Nov 2014 6:11PM

AFAIK joindiaspora.com does not have a twitter account.

DU

[deactivated account] Sun 9 Nov 2014 8:25PM

Ok, thanks. I was just trying to get a better understanding of the actual issue.

From what I understand the problem is that more people come to @joindiaspora with issues relating specifically to that pod itself, rather than coming to @joindiasopra with issues relating to the Diaspora project itself.

With that in mind, I agree with Brent's comment in his vote, which I'll echo in mine.

G

goob Sun 9 Nov 2014 8:37PM

From what I understand the problem is that more people come to @joindiaspora with issues relating specifically to that pod itself

That's not my understanding. But @jasonrobinson administers that Twitter account, so let's ask him.

G

goob Mon 10 Nov 2014 12:07PM

What point is there to discuss names before deciding to change it?

It seems a bit counter-productive to commit ourselves to changing the name before deciding on a better name (which is available).

I agree to change the name if we can find a better name to change it to.

JR

Jason Robinson Tue 11 Nov 2014 4:48PM

@goob - loomio doesn't support two votes at the same time in the same thread. Since creating a new thread would be overkill, one thing must be voted on first. I think it makes sense to first agree on whether the name should be changed, before discussing a new name. What is the point of voting on a new name if the end result is that the community wants to keep the old one? ;)

B

Birch** Fri 14 Nov 2014 5:38AM

DiasporaProject is a good alternative I think. Though DiasporaFoundation is good as well because it will be associated with the actual diasporafoundation page which is where the focal hub - or as close as we have to one- is anyhow.

JR

Poll Created Sun 7 Dec 2014 12:03PM

What should be the new Twitter account name? Closed Tue 9 Dec 2014 11:33AM

Outcome
by Jason Robinson Tue 25 Apr 2017 5:21AM

Names are too long, new proposal needed

What should be the official project Twitter account handle?

Note, due to limited options for proposals, I've chosen the few mentioned ones from the earlier discussions. I've also kept joindiaspora in the list - for those who want to vote for keeping that.

If you have good ones that are free (check first!), please comment and we can have a second round against the winners of this proposal..

NOTE: renaming does mean losing the verified status. I'll contact the Twitter support to see what actions we can do to keep it after rename. If someone wants, we can have a vote on whether losing the verified status is a blocker for renaming the account.

How to vote?

YES - @diasporafoundation
NO - @diaspora_project
ABSTAIN - @diasporasocnet
BLOCK - @joindiaspora

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 100.0% 9 F G PP S J DU B DU S
Abstain 0.0% 0  
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 38 ST FS JH JR BB RF DS E S AS R JD PP J NV BC M RS- MB PG

9 of 47 people have voted (19%)

DU

[deactivated account]
Agree
Sun 7 Dec 2014 12:21PM

Yeeees...

F

Flaburgan
Agree
Sun 7 Dec 2014 4:30PM

Loosing the verified status is probably a blocker for me.

PP

Pirate Praveen
Agree
Sun 7 Dec 2014 5:13PM

While we are at it, renaming diasporahq@joindiaspora.com to diasporafoundation brings more consistency. Diasporafederation could be used to include updates from friendica and redmatrix too.

B

Birch**
Agree
Mon 8 Dec 2014 2:34AM

Verified or not doesn't bother me too much, I just really prefer the @diasporafoundation name

G

goob
Agree
Mon 8 Dec 2014 4:50PM

See comment - don't feel strongly either way, but mildly prefer this option.

JR

Jason Robinson Sun 7 Dec 2014 12:05PM

Maybe a few others to consider too:

@diasporaofficial
@diasporasome
@diasporapods
@diasporafederation

:)

J

jakobdee Sun 7 Dec 2014 12:39PM

yes.. from niave users perspective ... searching for Diaspora .. was complicated with the 'join' prefix .... that the 'joindiaspora' links were also depreciated was equally confusing ... im more aware of the situation now,so not so much a problem ... and work is being done to 'federate' the loose ends ... so yeah ... good suggestions :) .. though im not a Twitter user ;p .. D* is all thats required ... and a duck doesnt need muddy feet walking in foreign swamps ;)

S

sumimasen Sun 7 Dec 2014 3:46PM

What about @diasporaHQ ? It is taken but not being used.. Maybe the owner wants to give it up?

JR

Jason Robinson Sun 7 Dec 2014 5:41PM

@praveenarimbrathod

While we are at it, renaming diasporahq@joindiaspora.com to diasporafoundation brings more consistency.

This proposal is about the twitter account only. Also, diaspora doesn't support renaming accounts ;)

G

goob Mon 8 Dec 2014 4:49PM

I'm equally happy with disporafoundation or diaspora_project. I slightly prefer 'project', but the fact that there is already a diasporaproject account means that confusion is possible, so the foundation one might be preferable for that reason. Not so keen on 'socnet' as it's more complex and not complete words.

I think on balance I'll go with 'foundation' as that's the name of the project website. But am happy with project too - even socnet. I don't really mind!

JR

Jason Robinson Tue 9 Dec 2014 11:33AM

Thanks to the suggestion of @rich1 I actually tried to register the candidates - and it seems @diasporafoundation is too long... So much for that then..

I've registered @diaspora_info and @diasporasocnet - also available would be suggestions @diasporasome, @diasporapods and @diasporafed (federation is too long).

I'll register the rest in the evening and set up a new vote, keeping @joindiaspora as one of the options..

DU

[deactivated account] Tue 9 Dec 2014 11:34AM

and it seems @diasporafoundation is too long

:(

Thanks for providing all the available options though :)

S

sumimasen Tue 9 Dec 2014 12:27PM

@diaspora_now ??

G

goob Tue 9 Dec 2014 12:59PM

I actually tried to register the candidates

Um, we don't want to register these names separate, because that way we won't be able to change the name of the existing Twitter account, which is what we surely want to do (to keep all the existing followers, and so on).

F

Flaburgan Tue 9 Dec 2014 1:12PM

if changing means loosing the certified label and we can't change for diasporafoundation (too long) or diasporaproject (already token?), I think that changing is worst than keeping joindiaspora...

PP

Pirate Praveen Tue 9 Dec 2014 2:27PM

I too agree with @flaburgan .

JR

Jason Robinson Tue 9 Dec 2014 7:39PM

Losing the certified status can be avoided afaik.

But to be honest, none of the other options are that good that I see this as a good use of time so let's just forget about it..

M

Poll Created Tue 23 Dec 2014 12:26PM

Change @joindiaspora to @diaspora Closed Tue 23 Dec 2014 12:34PM

I think that we should change the twitter name to @diaspora, as it will be easier to search for and find. It will benefit new users, as not everyone is searching for Join Diaspora, rather they would search for Diaspora.

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 0.0% 0  
Abstain 0.0% 0  
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 100.0% 1 DU
Undecided 0% 40 ST FS JH JR F PP BB RF DS E S AS R JD PP J NV BC M RS-

1 of 41 people have voted (2%)

DU

[deactivated account]
Block
Tue 23 Dec 2014 12:32PM

Find a Twitter account which isn't already taken.

DU

[deactivated account] Tue 23 Dec 2014 12:31PM

Seriously?

This guy might object...

http://twitter.com/diaspora

M

MrmappyINOF Tue 23 Dec 2014 12:34PM

Sorry, I didn't know it was taken

BB

Brent Bartlett Thu 1 Jan 2015 9:43PM

@mrmappyinof ohyes. If you search for "diaspora" on Twitter, most of the posts are not about the social network.